Coupled oscillation: time interval between maxima

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The discussion revolves around coupled oscillations of pendulums, specifically focusing on the time interval between successive maximum amplitudes after one pendulum is displaced and released. The original poster has calculated the periods of the normal modes of oscillation and is attempting to understand the implications of these modes when combined.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster expresses uncertainty about the problem's requirements and questions whether both modes of oscillation are being superimposed. Other participants inquire about the initial conditions needed to excite each mode and discuss the nature of the combined oscillations.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively exploring the concepts of superposition and beat frequencies resulting from the combination of oscillations with different frequencies. Some have provided insights into the characteristics of the modes and their effects on the overall motion, while others are seeking clarification on the roles of the frequencies involved.

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The discussion includes references to specific frequencies and calculations, but there is an ongoing exploration of the underlying principles and assumptions related to the initial conditions and the resulting motion of the coupled pendulums.

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Homework Statement



I calculated T_o to be 1.27 seconds and "T_o"' to be 1.23 seconds, each representing a normal mode of oscillation. These are correct according to the text.

Here is the question: what is the time interval between successive maximum possible amplitudes of one pendulum after one pendulum is drawn aside and released?

(answer: 40 seconds)

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm not even quite sure how to begin this problem, or what it is asking precisely. Is this suggesting that both modes of oscillation are superimposed? If this is the case, the superimposed period would be 1.25s... where am I going wrong here?
 
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What are the two modes of oscillation, and what initial conditions would you need to excite each one?
 
The first mode starts with equal displacement for both pendulums, both oscillate with natural frequency \sqrt(\frac{g}{l}). The second mode starts with equal displacement but opposite signs for the pendulums, both oscillating with frequency \sqrt(w_0^2 + w_c^2).
 
Right. The initial condition given doesn't excite just one mode, so the motion will be the superposition of the two modes, which have different frequencies. What happens when you combine two oscillations with different frequencies?
 
You get a beat with a frequency of each pendulum equal to the average of the two normal frequencies = ~ 0.80 hz = ~ 5.02 rad/s.
 
Yes, you get a beat. But there's two frequencies associated with it. You mentioned one, but what's the frequency of the envelope, i.e. the beat frequency?
 
It's half the difference of the two, so roughly 0.0256 hz or 0.1609 rad/s. I can see where the answer comes from now, but I don't really understand the roles of these two respective frequencies.
 
Thanks!
 

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