Covariant derivative of a commutator (deriving Bianchi identity)

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The discussion revolves around deriving the Bianchi identity from the torsion tensor in a torsion-free space, starting with the equation involving covariant derivatives and the commutator of vector fields. The author seeks clarification on how the third term in the covariant differentiation of the identity is derived, specifically relating to the expression involving the commutator and covariant derivatives. It is noted that using normal coordinates allows for the simplification of partial derivatives to covariant derivatives in the neighborhood of a point. The conversation confirms that this choice facilitates the derivation process. Overall, the discussion emphasizes the relationship between covariant differentiation and the properties of the torsion tensor in the context of the Bianchi identity.
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Hi. I'm trying to understand a derivation of the Bianchi idenity which starts from the torsion tensor in a torsion free space;

$$ 0 = T(X,Y) = \nabla_X Y - \nabla_Y X - [X,Y]$$

according to the author, covariant differentiation of this identity with respect to a vector Z yields

$$$ 0 = \nabla_Z \{\nabla_X Y - \nabla_Y X - [X,Y]\} = \nabla_Z\nabla_X Y - \nabla_Z \nabla_Y X - \{ \nabla_{[X,Y]}Z + [Z,[X,Y]] \}$$.

The two first terms are obvious, but how does he arrive at the third term?
 
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Let ##p \in M## and choose normal coordinates on a neighborhood of ##p##.

Then ##[Z,[X,Y]]^{\mu}|_p\\ = Z^{\nu}\partial_{\nu}[X,Y]^{\mu}|_p - [X,Y]^{\nu}\partial_{\nu} Z^{\mu}|_p\\ = Z^{\nu}\nabla_{\nu}[X,Y]^{\mu}|_p - [X,Y]^{\nu}\nabla_{\nu}Z^{\mu}|_p##

so ##\nabla_{Z}[X,Y]|_p = \nabla_{[X,Y]}Z|_p + [Z,[X,Y]]|_p##.
 
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WannabeNewton said:
Let ##p \in M## and choose normal coordinates on a neighborhood of ##p##.

Then ##[Z,[X,Y]]^{\mu}|_p\\ = Z^{\nu}\partial_{\nu}[X,Y]^{\mu}|_p - [X,Y]^{\nu}\partial_{\nu} Z^{\mu}|_p\\ = Z^{\nu}\nabla_{\nu}[X,Y]^{\mu}|_p - [X,Y]^{\nu}\nabla_{\nu}Z^{\mu}|_p##

so ##\nabla_{Z}[X,Y]|_p = \nabla_{[X,Y]}Z|_p + [Z,[X,Y]]|_p##.

Thanks WbN! Was the point of choosing normal coordinates that you could immediately set ##\partial_\nu \to \nabla_\nu## within the neighbourhood?
 
Yep!
 

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