Cover songs versus the original track, which ones are better?

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The discussion revolves around the comparative quality of cover songs versus their original versions. Participants explore which covers are considered better or worse, including both singles and album tracks, and express personal opinions on various songs and their interpretations.

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  • Some participants propose that the quality of a cover depends on personal judgment and taste, while others argue for an independent standard of "better."
  • Several examples of covers and originals are presented, with participants expressing preferences and discussing the emotional impact of different versions.
  • There are claims that some covers add new interpretations or arrangements, while others feel certain covers do not justify their existence compared to the originals.
  • Participants mention specific songs and artists, such as "Hurt" by Nine Inch Nails and Johnny Cash, and "Twist and Shout" by The Beatles, highlighting varying opinions on their respective covers.
  • Some participants express a desire for arguments or reasoning behind preferences, while others emphasize the subjective nature of musical appreciation.

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Participants generally do not reach consensus on the criteria for evaluating covers versus originals. Multiple competing views remain regarding the subjective nature of musical quality and the validity of personal taste in judgments.

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Discussions include references to specific songs and artists without resolving the subjective interpretations or emotional responses elicited by different versions. The conversation reflects a range of personal experiences and preferences, which may not align universally.

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Music enthusiasts, fans of specific artists, and those interested in the dynamics of musical interpretation and cover songs may find this discussion engaging.

  • #421
Anything written by Bob Dylan but performed by someone else. Just saying... that guy can write but just can't sing at all. YMMV
 
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  • #422
The original by Howlin Wolf sounds suspiciously like Last Night by The Mar-Keys
 
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  • #423
Going To A Go Go -- Originally by The Miracles, cover by The Rolling Stones



I think this whole concert from 1982 is great. In 2021 it was released semi-covertly in a "super deluxe" CD set.
 
  • #424
DaveE said:
Anything written by Bob Dylan but performed by someone else. Just saying... that guy can write but just can't sing at all. YMMV
Yes a song writer first.
I like most of the singles
Subterranean Homesick Blues

Like a rolling stone

Looks like a woman

Lay lady lay

Knocking on heavens door

I want you

Blowin in the wind
I cannot even remember his version of “All along the watch tower,” Hendrix finest hour in the studio for me.

Mighty Quinn is Manfred Man for me and Mr Tambourine man is the Byrds although I do like his version as well.
 
  • #425
Some Dylan singing actually sounds good:
Knocking on Heaven's Door (the Hollywood production for a movie that should have gotten an Oscar in my opinion):
 
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  • #426
BillTre said:
Some Dylan singing actually sounds good:
Knocking on Heaven's Door (the Hollywood production for a movie that should have gotten an Oscar in my opinion:

I'll check that out Bill
 
  • #427
Bob said "give up smoking and you can sing like Caruso."
 
  • #428
He does sound better on "Knockin' on Heaven's Door". Do you think he quit smoking, maybe? Not a great voice, but neither did Garcia have a good voice. Pigpen was their best vocalist in the beginning, I believe. Here's one I think fits Dylan's nasal voice well. From my favorite album of his.

 
  • #429
Best Dylan song. . . ever! . :cool:



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  • #430
Hornbein said:
Bob said "give up smoking and you can sing like Caruso."
Here's one I always liked, well, the album version anyway. Found this live Paris 1966 live version, not that good. Listening to his voice in the introduction, though, sounds like he's been smoking a pack/day, maybe. :)

 
  • #431
difalcojr said:
Here's one I always liked, well, the album version anyway. Found this live Paris 1966 live version, not that good. Listening to his voice in the introduction, though, sounds like he's been smoking a pack/day, maybe. :)


Yes, one of my favorites of his. But, again, better when sung by someone else.
 
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  • #433
Beethoven - Moonlight Sonata (3rd movement)

Valentina Lisitsa (2009)


Dr. Viossy (2011)


Tina S (2016)
 
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  • #434
How about "Bring It on home to me". Sam Cooke, original. Eric Burdon and the Animals, the cover. I like both but can't beat the original.



 
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  • #435
Indeed I give them about 30%. Its like whites trying to cover Ray Charles: No kan doo. That's Huntington Beach btw
 
  • #436
DaveE said:
Anything written by Bob Dylan but performed by someone else. Just saying... that guy can write but just can't sing at all. YMMV
Agree, Judy Collins' cover is better than Dylan's original.
I do like Joni Mitchell originals better than Judy Collins covers of them, though. I
I think Judy Collins cover of Leonard Cohen's "Suzanne" is even better than his very fine original version too.



 
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  • #437
That's Lou Rawls singing "backup." It's really a duet.
 
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  • #438
morrobay said:
Indeed I give them about 30%. Its like whites trying to cover Ray Charles: No kan doo. That's Huntington Beach btw
Well, the English bands were the first to do American blues. It wasn't played on the radio or popularized at all. Or covered much until the hippies tuned in too. Here's an early cover of what you're talking about, probably referring to. John Mayall, Eric Clapton, John McVie, Hughie Flint. Is that beach in Morro Bay?!



 
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  • #439
. Huntington Beach pier, Huntington Beach, CA
 
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  • #440
I give these lads close to 100%
 
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  • #441
Agreed. Here's another I want your opinion on. "Hideaway". Really like Freddie King's music and his original version. But Mayall's cover version with Eric Clapton I like just as much, even a bit more. 100% ?

 
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  • #442
These instrumentals sound about the same.(I have no music technical knowledge ) This style of blues is not particulary my style preference anyway. This leads into Paul Butterfield and a very large field of that style both black and white. For blues I like Jimmy Reed , a completely different blues style. Overall I prefer Ray Charles type soul and Motown.
 
  • #443
Roger Daltry -- Born To Run

 
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  • #444
morrobay said:
These instrumentals sound about the same.(I have no music technical knowledge ) This style of blues is not particulary my style preference anyway. This leads into Paul Butterfield and a very large field of that style both black and white. For blues I like Jimmy Reed , a completely different blues style. Overall I prefer Ray Charles type soul and Motown.
Yes, everyone has their own style preference. I like Jimmy Reed, Ray Charles and Motown too. Marvin Gaye/Tammi Terrell duets my favorites. Not sure if they covered anyone, but their covers would win. Beautiful harmony.
Yes, blues leads into Butterfield and the U.S. blues scene. It was the Steve Miller Blues Band originally. Butterfield's cover of Muddy Waters' "Got My Mojo Working" with big Sam Lay singing and drums. That one song got everybody jumping for the blues.
30% for Eric Burdon (who had a great voice) in that awfully funny video is about right. The Englishmen looked completely lost on a California beach in a staged, lip-sync video. Hanging with what looked like the film extras cast right out of the Gidget movies. Huntington Beach, thks.
 
  • #445
difalcojr said:
Hanging with what looked like the film extras cast right out of the Gidget movies. Huntington Beach, thks.
Well I'm 3rd generation native Californian. With many years in Laguna Beach . And there was nothing staged about that typical Beach crowd.
 
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  • #446
morrobay said:
Well I'm 3rd generation native Californian. With many years in Laguna Beach . And there was nothing staged about that typical Beach crowd.
I liked surf music too. All of it, actually, I confess, a lot. Harmonies. Good vibes. Sunny, warm LA. Jimi Hendrix is my favorite rock guitarist; he sang something like 'may you never hear surf music again', but I don't agree with him. "Wipeout" by the Ventures. Lots of good music in every venue. Here's a Marvin Gaye/Tammi Terrell one since you brought in Marvin Gaye. Not much Motown I've seen on the posts?

 
  • #447
difalcojr said:
I liked surf music too.

Best surf music and video. . . ever! . :cool:



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  • #448
Sails of Charon (Scorpions with Uli Jon Roth)

Scorpions - Sails Of Charon - Musikladen TV (16.01.1978)


Yngwie Malmsteen - Sails Of Charon (1996)


Uli Jon Roth - "The Sails of Charon (Scorpions)" (1/31/23) 70000 Tons of Metal
 
  • #450
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