Music Cover songs versus the original track, which ones are better?

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The discussion centers around the merits of cover songs compared to their originals, exploring which covers are considered better and which should have been avoided. The subjective nature of evaluating music is emphasized, with opinions varying widely based on personal taste. Notable examples include Jimi Hendrix's cover of "All Along the Watchtower," which many argue surpasses Bob Dylan's original, and Johnny Cash's rendition of "Hurt," which evokes deep emotion. Other covers, such as those by Eva Cassidy and the Bare Naked Ladies, are praised for their unique interpretations that enhance the originals. Conversely, some covers are criticized for lacking originality or failing to add anything new, with specific songs mentioned as examples of covers that should have been left alone. The conversation also touches on the broader implications of musical interpretation, the role of the listener in evaluating art, and the complexities of genre classification, particularly in jazz. Overall, the thread highlights the rich landscape of music covers, showcasing both celebrated interpretations and those deemed unnecessary.
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PeroK said:
Since I listened to a few covers, YouTube has been serving me up a steady diet. It seems I could spend the rest of my life listening to covers of King Crimson tracks alone. The number of covers of Starless is extraordinary. One group of what looked like college kids had even roped in the late John Wetton to sing the lyrics. There is everything from full-on prog-rock versions (although perhaps Starless is so prog it's not rock anymore), a zany avant garde version, a folk version played in the woods and a solo acoustic guitar version played in a cathedral.

It's extraordinary that young people are playing this music. How do they even know about this material? By the early 1990's I was ridiculed for still listening to 1970's prog rock. Perhaps it's ultimately the quality and originality of the music that has helped it survive. It shows that that with music perhaps you can't tell what will endure the test of time. I must admit I feel somewhat vindicated.

I always felt the 1980s were mostly style over substance and I never really understood the point of the music video. If the music is good enough, what is the need for a video? The best videos, for me, are just the band playing the music. I saw an interview with Keith Richards where he said something like this - that the eyes eventually dominate the ears.

Anyway, here's the latest cover of Starless. @pinball1970 I particularly like the percussion on this one (and the two guitars):


I really like that track. I am not that familiar with King Crimson but looking at the players I am going to YouTube a few. Gaps in my music are folk, folk rock and bands like KC, the Nice, the Strawbs.
Also the Rolling Stones (you are now thinking, "totally just lost any musical respect I had for this loser")
Thing is I never had any of the Albums, I know all of the singles pretty much but never got round to listening to the album stuff.
We all have gaps!
 
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Do we all have gaps?! I'm hearing things I never heard back when, lots of them! Here's a couple early Stones songs, one at least I am sure you will know. One from the Between the Buttons album. Like how it speeds up.



The Aftermath album has lots of early hits too
One from album High Tide and Green Grass, an early greatest hits album. Lot of covers of this.

 
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difalcojr said:
Do we all have gaps?! I'm hearing things I never heard back when, lots of them! Here's a couple early Stones songs, one at least I am sure you will know. One from the Between the Buttons album. Like how it speeds up.



The Aftermath album has lots of early hits too
One from album High Tide and Green Grass, an early greatest hits album. Lot of covers of this.


I will try it.
 
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요요미 - One night in Bangkok (Murray Head) Cover by YOYOMI

 
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Hornbein said:
요요미 - One night in Bangkok (Murray Head) Cover by YOYOMI


Brilliant singer. @strangerep will recognize the Ian Gillan connection!

 
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Hornbein said:
요요미 - One night in Bangkok (Murray Head) Cover by YOYOMI
She sings beautifully. Is she singing this to her contemporaries? Young Japanese men? Her eyes and facial expressions at the end suggest this, possibly?
 
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요요미(YOYOMI) - La Isla Bonita (Madonna) 가로버전 Cover by YOYOMI​


Great bass line.



Of which viewers said "Поклон Вашему таланту с острова Сахалин!"

[Bow to your talent from Sakhalin Island!]
 
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Pet Peeve whilst we are on Webber musicals. Conversations on the net regarding Jesus Christ Superstar, end up discussing Nealy and his successors without mentioning Gillan.
Also Murray Head who was the original Judas. Both those Album performances recorded in hours were phenomenal.

 
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Yvonne Elliman on this one although she was in the film too. Doubt there is a good cover of it.

 
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difalcojr said:
She sings beautifully. Is she singing this to her contemporaries? Young Japanese men? Her eyes and facial expressions at the end suggest this, possibly?
Singing to men in general. She's from South Korea and is also popular in Russia.
 
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1956 Johnny Burnette Trio - The Train Kept A-Rollin’​


 
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Tina Turner's hit songs don't do anything for me, but she sure could rock.
Covering Robert Palmer's Addicted To Love.

 
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Tiny Bradshaw - "The Train Kept A-Rollin'" [King #9068] 1951
 
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Well. . . I like this. . :cool:





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"Respect" - I think and pretty much everybody else agrees/agreed (including Otis) that Aretha's cover was better.



 
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Rage Against The Machine covers
Renegades of Funk

The orig is by Afrika Bambaataa & The Soulsonic Force
.but I don't much like it.
 
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Hornbein said:

1956 Johnny Burnette Trio - The Train Kept A-Rollin’​

A clip of Stompy Jones cover of The Train Kept-A-Rollin at Carnation Plaza from around 2015. Disneyland had big | swing bands on Saturday nights for over 60 years (that stopped with Covid). You'll probably need to turn up the brightness.

Stompy Jones - The Train Kept A Rolling
 
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So, for me the two songs that spring out as better than their original are Jeff Buckly, Hallelujah. And then specifically this live version:


And Nirvana, "The man who sold the world", also specifically this version:


Honorable mention:
From the same MTV Unplugged session: Nirvana, "Where did you sleep last night", again, specifically this version (although this is a bit cheating, since this is a folk song, original unknown ;):
 
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Some more honorable mentions, it is a bit hard to call these better than their original, but they are pretty much on par as far as I'm concerned:











Ok, I'll stop now. I think I can fill this entire thread :)
 
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The Locomotion

LIttle Eva was Carol King's babysitter. I used to think Carol was the baby, but realized later this was unrealistic. Further reducing the glamor, Carol contacted her as a singer first. The babysitting was just a side gig.

Little Eva

Kylie Minogue
 
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I always wonder where they got all the hair from for that hairstyle from the fifties and the sixties.
 
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fresh_42 said:
I always wonder where they got all the hair from for that hairstyle from the fifties and the sixties.
Grows out of their heads, or gets added in some way.
 
  • #725
BillTre said:
Grows out of their heads, or gets added in some way.
The bee hive is added. The Ronettes ethnicity: African American, Cherokee, Irish American, and Puerto Rican
 
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fresh_42 said:
I always wonder where they got all the hair from for that hairstyle from the fifties and the sixties.
Wigs! EDIT: Really big ones
 
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Ok, I just came to think about a cover that I like...

Original: Iggy & The Stooges - Search & Destroy (actually mixed by David Bowie)
Cover: EMF - Search & Destroy (I like it because of the energy and the guitars :smile:)
 
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pinball1970 said:
@strangerep will recognize the Ian Gillan connection!
Indeed!

Have you seen the (very poor quality) video of Ian Gillan recording "Gethsemane"? Every time I hear someone else (except Petr Elfimov) sing that song (e.g., John Farnum, and others) I just want to sigh and turn them off. :oldfrown:

Have you seen Petr Elfimov's orchestral renditions of both Gethsemane and Child in Time? Not bad, I thought, although the theatrical aspects of his performance seemed to me a touch (but only a touch) less genuine than Gillan, who always comes across as totally committed.
 
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strangerep said:
Have you seen the (very poor quality) video of Ian Gillan recording "Gethsemane"?
Yes post #705! The film of JCSS was unwatchable for me. Murray Head was fantastic on the album as was Gillan. @strangerep
 
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These dudes are cover masters (by no means I think the original Zeppelin one is any worse though):



But oh, that guitar solo...
 
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jogezep said:
These dudes are cover masters (by no means I think the original Zeppelin one is any worse though):



But oh, that guitar solo...

This was posted before I think and I did not give it a chance. Yeah I was very hasty. Great cover.
 
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The Japanese music scene revolves around TV theme songs. Here's Go Go Maniac!, the theme song to an anime about high school girls who form a rock band. After a year they can play like experts.

Jazz bands do covers of TV theme songs.

Cover by Platina Jazz, Count Basie style. I think they are Russians who live in Tokyo.



Here's another cover, by Maurry. It's pretty close to the not-quite-as-frantic original. Finally someone found a use for the thin sound of the Fender Jazzmaster.
 
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Orig Shake Your Hips by Slim Harpo


Cover by Jesse Dayton
 
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Covering Van Halen's Dreams. I usually don't go for highly accurate covers but this is flabbergasting. A one-man van Halen! I would have thought it a very remote possibility.

Electronic drums are starting to sound as good as the real thing. Easier to carry around, easier to record, easier to control the volume live, and the neighbors less likely to call the cops. Are they cheaper? Real drums appear to be on the way out.
 
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Hornbein said:
Electronic drums are starting to sound as good as the real thing.
What they are doing with [rubber!] cymbals just amaze me! In the following video, they talk about muting the sound just by touching the cymbal with your fingers! It simply uses the static electricity as a signal.

 
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Hornbein said:
Covering Van Halen's Dreams. I usually don't go for highly accurate covers but this is flabbergasting. A one-man van Halen! I would have thought it a very remote possibility.

Electronic drums are starting to sound as good as the real thing. Easier to carry around, easier to record, easier to control the volume live, and the neighbors less likely to call the cops. Are they cheaper? Real drums appear to be on the way out.
I have played a few and my biggest complaint is that they look, feel and sound crap.
I played bass for a bit just after Covid and the drummer had a set, he spent forever getting a sound and it still sounded rubbish.
I had a go and nothing about it felt or sounded right.
Good for practice if you do not have sound proofing but the feel could affect your technique. Another thread perhaps in the NY.
 
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This lady is amazing, stumbled upon her looking for Cloud busting, Kate Bush.

"Suspended in Gaffa."

 
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jack action said:
What they are doing with [rubber!] cymbals just amaze me! In the following video, they talk about muting the sound just by touching the cymbal with your fingers! It simply uses the static electricity as a signal.


They are horrible, I never got used to them.
 
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At local clubs here in Bali three out of three drummers were using electronic drums. Cajon or a suitcase-like thing played with sticks.
 
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Hornbein said:
At local clubs here in Bali three out of three drummers were using electronic drums. Cajon or a suitcase-like thing played with sticks.
Mm...

These guys don't use them, I've listened to a few now and I think they are great.
 
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pinball1970 said:
Mm...

These guys don't use them, I've listened to a few now and I think they are great.

Them boys shore kin sing.
 
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Enthusiasts of Surf Rock might like to look for recordings (or videos) of Huevos Rancheros group, who do or did cover versions. Very good or excellent in my opinion.
 
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