Create Hamiltonians in condensed matter with group theory

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the application of group theory to formulate Hamiltonians in condensed matter physics, particularly how to adapt Hamiltonians based on the symmetry of the system. Participants explore the transformation of matrices under different symmetries and the implications for Hamiltonian construction, with specific references to literature and resources.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in understanding how to write Hamiltonians using group theory and how to identify matrix transformations under specific symmetries.
  • Another participant notes that Hamiltonians must be invariant under group operations, suggesting that only certain combinations of group elements are permissible.
  • A request for resources with exercises on deriving Hamiltonians from group theory is made, indicating a desire for practical applications.
  • It is mentioned that understanding the symmetry of perturbations is crucial, and a reference to a comprehensive set of lecture notes on group theory is provided.
  • A suggestion is made that group theory is applied post hoc to analyze the solutions and their symmetries rather than directly writing the Hamiltonian from group theory principles.
  • A participant acknowledges understanding symmetry elements in crystals but struggles with incorporating additional factors like magnetic fields and spin matrices, questioning the use of character tables in these contexts.
  • Another participant introduces the concept of magnetic group theory as relevant to the discussion of magnetic fields and their properties.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding and approaches to using group theory in Hamiltonian formulation. There is no consensus on a singular method or understanding, and multiple perspectives on the application of group theory remain evident.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the complexity of applying group theory to different physical scenarios, including the need to consider perturbations and the implications of magnetic fields, which may not be straightforward. The discussion reflects a range of familiarity with the subject matter and the resources available.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students and researchers in condensed matter physics, particularly those interested in the intersection of group theory and Hamiltonian mechanics, as well as those seeking resources for further study in this area.

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Hello,

I am currently struggling to understand how one can write a Hamiltonian using group theory and change its form according to the symmetry of the system that is considered. The main issue is of course that I have no real experience in using group theory.

So to make my question a bit less general, take for example this article:

https://journals.aps.org/prb/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevB.6.3836

What I would like to understand is how we see that some matrices transform as a given representation, for example here they say the spin 1/2 matrices transform as Gamma 4 for the Td symmetry (3rd page). And how to use it to write the final Hamiltonian we want to obtain? I would like to be able to do that with any direction of magnetic field, stress or whatever applied to a given structure with any initial symmetry...

All the articles I try to understand that make use of group theory for such purposes just state the result as if there were obvious just by looking at the matrix of interest and the character table. Which must be the case but I do not see it.

I do not know if my question is clear. But any help is welcome.

Best regards!
 
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Hamiltonian's are invariant with respect to the operations of the group, so only certain combinations of the group elements are allowed. Check out any text on group theory and quantum mechanics (Tinkham is a good start but is terse).
 
Hello, thank you for your answer. Do you know any book or good pdf that would have exercises with detailed answers on this topic? (find a hamiltonian from group theory)
 
I am not exactly sure what you are looking for. Most of this is about knowing the symmetry of perturbations and checking what symmetry the combination of the perturbation and the initial symmetry yields. A very detailed look at group theory is given in the lecture notes of a course taught long ago by Mildred Dresselhaus at MIT. Course notes are still available at MIT (http://web.mit.edu/course/6/6.734j/www/group-full02.pdf), but it has more than 700 pages.

The standard book containing all the tables at a glance would be "Properties of the thirty-two point groups" by Koster. It has been digitized by Google and is available via the Hathi Trust (https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/001114463).
 
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Thank you for all the references, this is exactly what I am interested in. In fact, I followed a short introduction on group theory and I can see the symmetry elements in a crystal or a molecule. But it is less clear when I have to consider the magnetic field, the spin matrices, a photon, a quasiparticle, etc. Does it follow the same logic? I do not understand how I should use the character tables in those cases.
 
You have to use the properties of the magnetic field, with all of that you are getting into the regime of magnetic group theory.
 
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