Crushing Stress in Pin Design - What is Projected Area?

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The discussion centers on the concept of crushing stress in pin design, specifically focusing on the definition and derivation of projected area in relation to the contact between a pin and a fork. Participants explore the differences between projected area and curved surface area (CSA) of a cylinder, as well as the implications of these definitions in engineering design.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that crushing stress is calculated using projected area, defined as the diameter of the pin multiplied by the contact length, and questions the derivation of this area.
  • Another participant explains that the projected area represents what the pin and hole "see" of each other under force, emphasizing that it is not simply the CSA minus the projected area.
  • A further clarification is made regarding the conceptual difference between projected area and CSA, highlighting that contact occurs over an arc length due to clearance, yet the entire diameter is still considered for simplicity in calculations.
  • One participant suggests that the bearing stress is treated as nominal or average stress across the mating surfaces, and mentions that for critical applications, finite element analysis (FEA) may be necessary to understand actual stress distribution.
  • A request for mathematical proof of projected area is made, indicating a desire for further resources on the topic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the conceptual understanding of projected area versus CSA, and there is no consensus on the best approach to derive or explain projected area in this context.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include potential misunderstandings regarding the definitions of projected area and CSA, as well as the assumptions made about contact conditions between the pin and hole.

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Hi all,
I today learned that for pin design there is a parameter called,crushing stress,where the pulling force of the fork is divided over projected area,I learned that projected area was d*t where d was the diameter of the pin and t was the contact length between pin and the fork being pulled.Can anyone explain me how the area was derived,it seems i cannot understand why curved surface area of the cylinder cannot be taken for it.Or the difference between CSA and projected area of cylinder.

Sorry if I have misstated something and thanks in advance
 
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Hello jayanth
Crushing stress or bearing stress uses projected area.
You have a round pin in a same size round hole. The force pulling the fork(yoke) and rod apart acts in one direction. The projected area is what the hole and pin 'see' of each other in holding the force. Definitely one obtains a nominal stress acting over the profected area, whereas in fact the first contact may be between the pin and hole some where in line with the direction of force.

If it was a square pin in a square hole does that make it easier to grasp.

It definitely is not the CSA minus the projected area.
 
256bits said:
Hello jayanth
It definitely is not the CSA minus the projected area.

I did not mean the algebric difference between CSA and projected area,I wanted to know why conceptual difference between both.If Projected area is d*t and there is clearance between the hole in the fork and pin (Which there should be),the contact will take place only over some arc length.My question is instead of considering the arc length,why do we consider the entire diameter of pin.

Also can someone provide mathematical proof for projected area ?

I'm sorry to ask the same question again and again.I cannot find any material on internet for this.So,if anyone could point me some source I would be much obliged.

Thanks in advance...
 
The bearing stress is a assumed to be the nominal or average stress and as such uniform where the pin/hole mating surfaces. If you want to determine the actual compressive stress progression for an extremely critical part then perhaps go to an FE analysis, but for simplicity the bearing stress equation as given is used. The actual compressive stress will be something resembling an ellipse that moves farther along the surfaces as the force increases up to a maximun to the point where your part fails. Taking an average of that ellipse gives you a handy acceptable way to design a part against failure with a safety facture included.

Here is a discussion on PF rearding holes of pin/hole of different diameter,
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=379576
 

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