Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the evaluation of the expression $y=x/(1+x)$, where $x=\omega^{2009^{2009^{\cdots \text{upto 2009 times}}}}$ and $\omega$ is a complex root of unity. Participants explore the implications of a large exponent in the context of modular arithmetic, particularly focusing on the forms of the exponent modulo 3.
Discussion Character
- Technical explanation
- Mathematical reasoning
- Debate/contested
Main Points Raised
- Some participants note that $2009 \equiv 2 \pmod{3}$ and explore how this affects the exponentiation of $2009$ in the context of modular arithmetic.
- Others argue that the exponent can be expressed in terms of its parity, specifically that $2009^l$ is odd for any integer $l$, leading to conclusions about its form modulo 2.
- There is a discussion on applying Fermat's Little Theorem and Euler's Theorem to simplify the calculations, with some participants questioning the necessity of Euler's totient function in this context.
- Participants clarify the implications of the cyclic property of exponents and how it relates to the problem at hand.
- Some participants express confusion about the application of these theorems and seek clarification on the steps involved in the reasoning.
- A later reply highlights that the title of the thread indicates that $\omega$ is a cube root of unity, which is relevant to the overall discussion.
- Finally, there is a conclusion that $x$ can be expressed as $\omega^{3k-1}$, leading to a proposed answer for $y$ based on this form.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants generally agree on the application of modular arithmetic and the implications of the exponent's form, but there is some disagreement on the necessity and clarity of using Euler's totient function versus Fermat's Little Theorem. The discussion remains somewhat unresolved regarding the best approach to simplify the problem.
Contextual Notes
Some participants express uncertainty about the specific root of unity represented by $\omega$, as the problem statement does not clarify this, although it is inferred from the title. Additionally, there are unresolved questions about the clarity of the steps taken in applying theorems related to modular arithmetic.