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The discussion revolves around a cubic function represented by a table of values for h(x) at specific x-values. The original poster attempts to derive a cubic equation based on the provided data, but encounters discrepancies between the calculated values and the graphical representation of the function.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the process of deriving a cubic equation from a set of data points and question the accuracy of the values obtained. There are attempts to reconcile differences between calculated and observed values from the graph.

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Some participants have offered insights into the inconsistencies in the data and the challenges of fitting a cubic polynomial to the given points. There is recognition of multiple interpretations of the data, and some guidance has been provided regarding the accuracy of readings from the graph.

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Participants note that the data may not fit a third-order polynomial exactly, and there are concerns about the accuracy of values derived from graphical interpretation. The original poster expresses frustration with problems based on graphical data.

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Homework Statement


A table is given:
x | -2 | -1 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 3
h(x) | 0 | 9 | y | 3 | 0 | 6

Well actually the h(x) line was based on a graph that we had to look at, it should be right. I discovered y = 8 (the graph increments by 3 on y-axis and 1 on x axis, so I couldn't tell what y was)
so d = 8, b = -2
This graph is a cubic function, so I'm using ax^3+bx^2+cx+d formula
I got c=-8 and a=2

The first question that I got was to fill the h(x) part of table (thats all the direction I had)
Then the second part of the question was to figure h(3)-h(1).. ok yeah no problem easy enough..
However here is the catch.. using the found equation from my data.. well first this is what it is:
y=2x^3-2x^2-8x+8
.. so anyways I graphed in calculator and when I look at the table I noticed for x=-1 y=12.. which from viewing the graph its obvious that is false, The highest point on y-axis appears to be 10 at most from looking at graph... This has thrown me off and I'm not sure what to do now.. its clear I screwed up some where.

Homework Equations


my results for equation (wrong) y=2x^3-2x^2-8x+8
cubic form: ax^3+bx^2+cx+d
Here are the four equations I derived out of the data to get what I thought was my answer..
-8a+4b-2c+d=0
-a+b-c+0=9
a+b+c+d=3
8a+4b+2c+d=0


The Attempt at a Solution


I wish to evaluate h(3)-h(1) but I've noticed some errors with what I did in part 1 of the question.
 
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JazzMasterKC said:
-a+b-c+0=9
Check that one again.
 
JazzMasterKC said:

Homework Statement


A table is given:
x | -2 | -1 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 3
h(x) | 0 | 9 | y | 3 | 0 | 6

Well actually the h(x) line was based on a graph that we had to look at, it should be right. I discovered y = 8 (the graph increments by 3 on y-axis and 1 on x axis, so I couldn't tell what y was)
so d = 8, b = -2
This graph is a cubic function, so I'm using ax^3+bx^2+cx+d formula
I got c=-8 and a=2

The first question that I got was to fill the h(x) part of table (thats all the direction I had)
Then the second part of the question was to figure h(3)-h(1).. ok yeah no problem easy enough..
However here is the catch.. using the found equation from my data.. well first this is what it is:
y=2x^3-2x^2-8x+8
.. so anyways I graphed in calculator and when I look at the table I noticed for x=-1 y=12.. which from viewing the graph its obvious that is false, The highest point on y-axis appears to be 10 at most from looking at graph... This has thrown me off and I'm not sure what to do now.. its clear I screwed up some where.

Homework Equations


my results for equation (wrong) y=2x^3-2x^2-8x+8
cubic form: ax^3+bx^2+cx+d
Here are the four equations I derived out of the data to get what I thought was my answer..
-8a+4b-2c+d=0
-a+b-c+0=9
a+b+c+d=3
8a+4b+2c+d=0

The Attempt at a Solution


I wish to evaluate h(3)-h(1) but I've noticed some errors with what I did in part 1 of the question.

There is a bit of inconsistency in your data. You get three slightly different cubic fits if you use x=(-2,-1,1,2) vs. x = (-2,-1,2,3) vs. x = (-2,1,2,3). These will give three slightly different values for h(0); I get h(0) = 8, 7.8 and 8.4, respectively.
 
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Your data do not fit exactly to a third order polynomial. If the data were read from a graph, try to read more accurately.

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thanks, though I can't stand these problems that are based from looking at a graph -_-
I ended up finding that 1x^3+2x^2-4x+8 (I think, just pullin from memory) fit exactly how it should with the exception x=3 y=5 looking a little sketchy from the graph, it looks like y=6 there to me... oh well this should suffice.
 
JazzMasterKC said:
I ended up finding that 1x^3+2x^2-4x+8
1x^3-2x^2-4x+8
 
Yep that's what I had sorry.
 

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