Current in a Circuit: Does Resistance Decrease It?

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of current in a circuit, particularly in relation to resistors and their effect on current flow. Participants explore concepts related to Ohm's Law, the role of electromotive force (EMF), and analogies to water flow in pipes to clarify their points. The conversation includes theoretical aspects and conceptual clarifications regarding current in series and parallel circuits.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that current remains the same throughout a series circuit, suggesting that resistors do not decrease current but cause a potential drop.
  • Others argue that while resistors do not change the total current in a series circuit, they can affect the voltage across components and the overall current in the circuit when considering additional resistors or loads.
  • A participant introduces the analogy of water flow in pipes, suggesting that a constriction (resistor) affects the flow rate (current) in the system.
  • There is a discussion about the role of EMF in causing current flow, with some clarifying that current only flows when a complete circuit is established.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of clear communication in discussing technical concepts, particularly regarding the definitions of current and resistance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between resistors and current. While some agree that current remains constant in a series circuit, others highlight that adding resistors can influence the overall circuit behavior. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of resistors on current flow.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference specific terms and concepts, such as I1, I2, and I3, without providing clear definitions, leading to potential confusion. The discussion also touches on the assumptions surrounding the behavior of current in different circuit configurations, including series and parallel arrangements.

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I was told the current remains the same throughout a circuit. That's why l1=l2+l3. However,won't resistors decrease the current? The formula seem to contradict with the fact that resistors will decrease current. Can someone explain to me please? Thanks
 
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Lim Y K said:
However,won't resistors decrease the current?
Yes, throughout the circuit.
 
No Resistors don't decrease current in a circuit .

Resistors simply cause a potential drop when current passes through them .

What are l1,l2,l3 ?
 
A resistor will decrease the voltage (ie the electromotive force of the current), but the current itself will be unchanged. If you want to decrease the current through a particular load you need to provide a parallel pathway to it. Also you will certainly effect the current of the circuit as a whole by adding a resistor (assuming the voltage remains the same, the resistance and current are inversely proportional to each other; Ohm's Law), but the current is still the same at DC+ as it is at DC- and every series point in between. The only time it is different is, as I noted previously, in the case of parallel loads in which case the voltage is equal across them and you can calculate the individual currents from there.

When you refer to L1/L2/L3 are you instead referring to the AC output from a 3-phase generator?
 
I thought EMF causes current ?
 
Lim Y K said:
I was told the current remains the same throughout a circuit. That's why l1=l2+l3. However,won't resistors decrease the current? The formula seem to contradict with the fact that resistors will decrease current. Can someone explain to me please? Thanks

You really should sit back and look at what you have written. You seem to think that we get to see what is in your head, such that we should know what I1, I2, and I3 are.

Assuming that I2 and I3 are parallel arms of a circuit and they all add up to I1, then we'll continue. However, do not make a habit out of this. This forum is a great place to learn not only physics, but how to communicate effectively, something that you will need to do sooner or later, no matter what profession you enter.

Go back to the definition of what "current" is. It is the rate of charge flow per second.

While this is a flawed analogy, the picture of water flow in pipes is often used. No matter how many branches you make the water flow into, the sum total of it will remain the same if there are no pile-up or leaks. Same with current. Unless there is a charge build-up somewhere, the total current in a series remains the same.

Zz.
 
Qwertywerty said:
I thought EMF causes current ?
It does, once it has a path to complete the circuit. Let's take the example of a 12V battery. At rest the battery shows 12V but there is no current since there is no circuit. If you wire a 10 ohm resistor between + and - the difference at the battery will cause a 1.2 amp current. Since there is only one resistor, the voltage drop across it will equal the DC voltage of the battery (12V, excluding negligible drop from the wires themselves), but an ammeter will measure 1.2A regardless of which side of the circuit you wire it into relative to the resistor.
 
My point was that the difference in potential of the battery electrodes would cause a flow of current .

The point that resistor does not cause change in current was always clear .
 
The analogy of water flowing through a pipe can be really helpful here. Current can be analogized to rate of water flow at a given point in a loop of the pipe system (the circuit) and a resistor can be analogized to a particularly narrow part of the pipe, like a constriction. Assuming water has been flowing continuously for some time, the constriction will cause the rate of flow anywhere in the pipe system to decrease, and, similarly a smaller constriction causes less "resistance" and water flow, current, will increase.

Edit: This is not contradictory to ZapperZ's analogy. I just wanted to break it down further.

I think part of the misunderstanding is seeing current as it's own entity and not as a property of the whole loop within a circuit.

According to Ohm's Law, I = V/R, given an independent voltage source, reducing the total resistance "facing " that source will raise current flowing through that source.
 
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Qwertywerty said:
My point was that the difference in potential of the battery electrodes would cause a flow of current .

The point that resistor does not cause change in current was always clear .
Yes. To use an analogy, if you take two containers under different pressure and connect them to each other, air will flow from one to the other until the pressure equalizes. Likewise, if you provide a path from the positive to the negative of a battery, current will flow until the potential of the two equalizes (zero voltage). And just like you can use a variety of apparatuses to control the airflow from the higher-pressure to lower-pressure container, you do the same by adding resistors/loads/other devices in the circuit.
 

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