Curve of a Circle: Find the Equation

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The discussion revolves around finding the equation of a curve with a specified curvature of 2, passing through the point (1,0), and having a tangent vector at that point of [1/2, (√3)/2]. The problem is situated within the context of plane curves and curvature analysis.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the application of the Fundamental theorem of plane curves and consider the implications of curvature being constant. There are discussions on using parametric equations to represent the circle and the relationships between the center and tangent vector. Some participants express confusion about solving for unknowns and seek further clarification on the steps involved.

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Several participants have offered guidance on how to approach the problem, including suggestions to solve for trigonometric functions related to the tangent vector and to use those results to find the center of the circle. There is an ongoing exploration of different methods and interpretations, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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Participants are navigating through the constraints of the problem, including the need to satisfy specific conditions related to curvature and tangent vectors, while also addressing the challenge of determining the center of the circle based on given points and slopes.

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Homework Statement



Find the curve whose curvature is 2, passes through the point (1,0) and whose tangent vector at (1,0) is [1/2 , (√3)/2 ].


The Attempt at a Solution



I know I must use the Fundamental theorem of plane curves but I don't know how to apply it correctly here. Another way to do it is the following but I don't know how to finish it:

Let us call our curve f(t). The curvature for f(t) is given by k=|f''(t)|=2. Since our curvature is a constant 2, we can think of this curve f(t) as a circle with radius r = 1/2. The equation for a circle is:

(x-a)^2 + (y-b)^2 = r^2, since the circle passes through (1,0) I can plug it in for (x,y) I get
(1-a)^2 + (0-b)^2 = (1/2)^2
(1-a)^2 + (b)^2 = 1/4

So we are given the points on the circle but we don't know what the center is. We are given the tangent vector.

So at (1,0) the tangent line is (1/2, (√3)/2). I can get the slope of this tangent line by rise over run (simple enough). Thus slope equals m = √3.

But how can I continue?
 
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Well, let us represent your circle in parametric equations, shall we?
We have:
x(t)=x_{c}+frac{1}{2}\cos(t), y(t)=y_{c}+\frac{1}{2}\sin(t)
Thus, we have, at t*:
1=x_{c}+frac{1}{2}\cos(t*) (1), 0=y_{c}+\frac{1}{2}\sin(t*) (2)
Furthermore, at t*, we have that rise over run satisfies, for example:
\cot(t*)=\sqrt{3} (3)
(1), (2) and (3) gives you three equations for your three unknowns.
 
Finding the unknowns is what I am having the most trouble in. Can you elaborate more please?
 
Well, solve (3) first, for what cos(t*) and sin(t*) must be.
Then insert those relations into (1) and (2), and solve for the coordinates of the center.
 
Lee7 said:

Homework Statement



Find the curve whose curvature is 2, passes through the point (1,0) and whose tangent vector at (1,0) is [1/2 , (√3)/2 ].


The Attempt at a Solution



I know I must use the Fundamental theorem of plane curves but I don't know how to apply it correctly here. Another way to do it is the following but I don't know how to finish it:

Let us call our curve f(t). The curvature for f(t) is given by k=|f''(t)|=2. Since our curvature is a constant 2, we can think of this curve f(t) as a circle with radius r = 1/2.

Correct.

So we are given the points on the circle but we don't know what the center is. We are given the tangent vector.

The tangent is perpendicular to the radius of the circle through (1,0), so the centre of the circle must lie on the line through (1,0) perpendicular to the tangent. That, together with the knowledge that the radius of the circle is 1/2, gives you two possible locations for the centre of the circle.

But I think you are intended to start from
<br /> \frac{d\psi}{ds} = 2<br />
and use the fact that
<br /> x&#039;(s) = \cos\psi(s) \\<br /> y&#039;(s) = \sin \psi(s)<br />
and you can solve for x(s) and y(s) by imposing the initial conditions
<br /> x(0) = 1, \quad y(0) = 0, \quad x&#039;(0) = \frac12, \quad y&#039;(0) = \frac{\sqrt{3}}2<br />
 
Pasmith - You got d/ds =2 from the radius correct?
 
arildno - cos is just ((√3)/2). and sin is 1/2
 
That's right!
Meaning, when you insert those in (1) and (2)?
 
Lee7 said:
Pasmith - You got d/ds =2 from the radius correct?

No, from the Cesaro Equation.
 

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