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The discussion revolves around the properties of the function y=(x-1)/(x^2-100), specifically addressing the behavior of horizontal and vertical asymptotes and the implications of crossing these asymptotes. Participants explore the conditions under which the x-axis serves as a horizontal asymptote while the curve also passes through specific points.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how the x-axis can be a horizontal asymptote while the curve passes through the point (1,0).
  • Another participant asserts that the x-axis being an asymptote does not prevent the function from crossing it, citing the example of sin(x)/x.
  • There is mention of a vertical asymptote at x=10, with some participants agreeing on its significance for x > 10.
  • A participant expresses confusion about the nature of horizontal asymptotes, believing they apply to the entire graph.
  • Another participant clarifies that horizontal asymptotes describe the behavior of the function as x approaches positive or negative infinity, independent of specific function values.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit disagreement regarding the interpretation of horizontal asymptotes and their relationship to specific points on the graph. Some participants agree that the x-axis can be crossed, while others initially express confusion about this concept.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of asymptotes and their implications for the function's behavior at finite points versus infinity.

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I was told to sketch this graph:

y=\frac{x-1}{x^2-100}

when x=0,y=.01


y=\frac{\frac{1}{x}-\frac{1}{x^2}}{1-\frac{100}{x^2}}

as x \rightarrow \infty;y \rightarrow 0 \Rightarrow y=0 (i.e. x-axis is a horizontal asymptote to the curve)

BUT

when y=0; x-1=0 so that x=1. So a point on the curve is (1,0)

How can the x-axis be a horizontal asymptote to the curve yet the curve passes through (1,0)?
 
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What do you mean, how can it? It just is.

The x-axis is an asymptote for sin(x)/x, and this is equal to zero an infinite number of times.
 
There's a vertical asymptote at x=10. For x > 10, the x-axis is a horizontal asymptote.
 
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There's a vertical asymptote at x=10. For x > 10, the x-axis is a horizontal asymptote.
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OH...that clears it right up for me! Thank you. I was under the impression that the x-axis would be a horizontal asymptote for the entire graph no matter what.
 
It is a horizontal asymptote for the entire graph. The notion of horizontal asymptote just means what the function f(x) approaches something as x approaches positive or negative infinity. It has nothing to do with f(1), and as you have found, it is quite possible to cross over an asymptote. See uman's post for a good example of a such a function.
 
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