Curvilinear motion of force-couple system

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the prediction of motion in a force-couple system, particularly focusing on the effects of applied forces and torques on both translational and rotational accelerations. Participants explore the complexities of curvilinear motion and the relationships between different components of acceleration.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a challenge in predicting motion due to the changing direction of the force as the moment turns the particle, questioning which force contributes to tangential versus normal acceleration.
  • Another participant requests a diagram to clarify the situation, indicating the need for visual representation in understanding the problem.
  • A participant mentions constants A, L, D, and Phi in relation to a torque and force applied to a box, suggesting that these elements influence the motion of the system.
  • One participant proposes that the box experiences both rotational and translational acceleration, expressing uncertainty about the initial analysis and questioning the presence of an upward force causing acceleration.
  • A clarification is made regarding the orientation of the diagram, noting that it is a top view displayed in the X-Y plane, which may affect the interpretation of forces and motion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the analysis of the problem, with some questioning the initial assumptions and others providing additional context. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific contributions of forces and torques to the motion of the system.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the analysis due to potential missing assumptions about the forces and torques involved, as well as the need for clearer definitions of the components affecting motion.

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I have a system of forces which I have reduced to a force-couple system. I am trying to predict the motion of the force and couple. This is hard because the force changes direction as the moment turns the particle. I imagine this should be turned into some sort of tangential-normal components. But which force causes tangential acceleration, and which force causes normal aceleration. The force or the moment?
 
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Can you send a diagram?
 
In the attached photo A, L, D and Phi are constants. There is a torque and a force applied to this box, or whatever it is. In front of the box is what I imagine the motion caused by the force and the torque will make the box go in.
 

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I think the question is probably one where the box has both rotational acceleration and translational acceleration. I am not sure you have analysed the problem correctly. A torque should be two balanced forces with a spacing between their lines of action. You seem to be giving the box an upward acceleration but I cannot see a force doing that.
 
The picture is a top view, not a side view. The picture is displayed in the X-Y plane.
 

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