Custom Math Course: Refresh Arithmetic & Learn Algebra/Calculus

  • Context: Courses 
  • Thread starter Thread starter Tri
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Course
Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a participant's plan to create a self-directed math course in preparation for high school, focusing on reviewing arithmetic, studying abstract algebra, geometry, trigonometry, and eventually calculus. The scope includes recommendations for resources and the efficiency of the proposed learning track.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant outlines a self-study plan starting with arithmetic, followed by abstract algebra, geometry/trigonometry, and then calculus, seeking feedback on its efficiency.
  • Another participant points out that abstract algebra is typically a college-level course and emphasizes the need for a solid understanding of proofs and logic before tackling it.
  • A different participant stresses that abstract algebra is distinct from high school algebra and suggests a more gradual approach, recommending starting with basic algebra and geometry before progressing to calculus.
  • Concerns are raised about the feasibility of self-teaching advanced topics without prior foundational knowledge, with one participant sharing their own experience of struggling with self-taught calculus.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the appropriateness of the proposed learning track. While some acknowledge the participant's ambition, there is no consensus on the efficiency of the plan or the suitability of starting with abstract algebra.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of foundational knowledge and the challenges of self-teaching advanced mathematics, indicating that the proposed course may require more time and preparation than initially suggested.

Tri
Messages
45
Reaction score
0
Hello all, I've decided to set a "math course" for myself, coming into Highschool I want to know as much as possible. I thought maybe review the basic arithmetic as a refresher then Abstract algebra (https://www.amazon.com/dp/0471433349/?tag=pfamazon01-20) followed by geom/trig, hopefully someone can recommend a website/book where I can learn this fairly quickly. After that is out of the way start on calculus( I have several books in mind). Do you find this track efficient, if not please recommend something better. :)
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Physics news on Phys.org
Tri said:
Hello all, I've decided to set a "math course" for myself, coming into Highschool I want to know as much as possible. I thought maybe review the basic arithmetic as a refresher then Abstract algebra (https://www.amazon.com/dp/0471433349/?tag=pfamazon01-20) followed by geom/trig, hopefully someone can recommend a website/book where I can learn this fairly quickly. After that is out of the way start on calculus( I have several books in mind). Do you find this track efficient, if not please recommend something better. :)

Abstract algebra?? You do know that abstract algebra is a college-level course, right?? And that Dummit & Foote is a university textbook, right?? I hope you're not confusing this with high school algebra, because it's very different!

If you do want to do abstract algebra, then you can. But be aware that the course is very proof intensive. You'll need to be quite acquainted with proofs and logic. There are some nice introductions to abstract algebra which should be quite accessible to (good) high school students. For example Pinter and Fraleigh are decent books.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
micromass said:
Abstract algebra?? You do know that abstract algebra is a college-level course, right?? And that Dummit & Foote is a university textbook, right?? I hope you're not confusing this with high school algebra, because it's very different!

If you do want to do abstract algebra, then you can. But be aware that the course is very proof intensive. You'll need to be quite acquainted with proofs and logic. There are some nice introductions to abstract algebra which should be quite accessible to (good) high school students. For example Pinter and Fraleigh are decent books.

I'm sorry I didn't give detail on previous Knowledge, I know most of the subjects I've listed just with a bit of a superficial understanding, and I would like to get deeper into the pure maths. I realize it's a college level textbook(which I have read before, University Physics with modern physics). I wasn't sure though, the difference between Algebra and Abstract Algebra, but according to the reviews it's a good basis for higher topics so I thought it would be a decent choice :/, is there a chance i can still keep up with the book, where can I get set with proofs?
 
Whoa hold your horses there, you need to realize what you're saying.

For starters, Abstract Algebra isn't the basic algebra you think it is. Abstract Algebra is a mathematics-major college course that definitely isn't taken until you've have Single Variable and Probably Multivariable Calculus, and taken Linear Algebra and maybe even Real Analysis.

The first thing you should do is get a nice introductory algebra ("basic algebra") book, that'll give you the basics. Then get a geometry book and learn a decent amount of geometry. After that you can progress onto basic analytic geometry and trigonometry. Only at that point can you even start to think about learning calculus.

That being said, I don't recommend this in any way.
First of all, it's going to take a while. What I just outlined is easily 3 years of math classes if not 4 or 5.
Second of all, self teaching is never the best idea. I'm not afraid to say that I am really good at math, and when I self-taught myself Differential Calculus I know that if I didn't have the mathematical skills I have I would have fallen far behind and suffered greatly by trying to leap ahead.

My advice is to take it a bit slower, wait to skip classes until you've gotten a bit farther along the math track.
That being said, I'd do whatever you want to do!
Best of luck :)
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
3K
  • · Replies 21 ·
Replies
21
Views
3K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
Replies
7
Views
3K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
3K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
6K