Cylindrical barrel Hydrostatic Pressure

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The problem involves calculating the net force against the ends of a circular cylindrical barrel that is half full of oil, with a specified diameter and oil density. The cylinder is oriented on its side, which adds complexity to the hydrostatic pressure calculations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between pressure and depth, suggesting the need for integration to find the net force. There are attempts to derive expressions for force based on elemental depths and the geometry of the semicircular cross-section.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring various methods to approach the problem, including integration techniques and the concept of the center of pressure. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of integrals and the implications of symmetry in the problem setup, although there is no explicit consensus on a single method.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of confusion regarding the integral setup and the application of the center of pressure concept. The discussion reflects a mix of understanding and uncertainty about the correct approach to the problem.

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Homework Statement


A circular cylindrical barrel is half full with oil. If the diameter of the base is 8.0 m, find the net force against each end if ρo = 800 kg/m3. The cylinder is on its side.

Homework Equations


F=P*A
P=ρgdy

The Attempt at a Solution


P = ρo*g*h, where h is the radius which is 4 meters.
A = half the area of a circle, 1/2πr2
F=ρogh*1/2πr2

The answer is incorrect, what am I doing wrong?
 
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Pressure is a function of depth, so is Force. To find the net force you need to write the expression for force for an elemental depth and then integrate from 0 to radius r.
 
F=1/2πr2ρog∫0r-√r2-y2
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That doesn't look right to me.

F= ρg∫0r 2h * √(r2-h2) dh

a simple substitution of variables solves this integral.

Another way that this problem can be solved is to find the center of pressure and then multiply the area with the pressure at (c.o.p).

Hope it helped.
 

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I understand the center of pressure part. Since this is a semicircle I could find the pressure at the center of mass and then just multiply it by the area. I will use this to solve it. I don't understand your integral though; where did 2h come from?
 
Check the attached image.

Using c.o.p is fine but it isn't by first principles. Also if the center of pressure isn't already given then you need to integrate to find it.
 
Thank you for your help, to me finding center of masses for symmetrical objects seems a little more intuitive than what you did. However, for an object that isn't symmetrical I'll have to use your method. Either way thank you very much.
 

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