D/C Circuit with one current and voltage source

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a circuit problem involving a direct current (D/C) circuit with one current source and one voltage source. Participants are exploring concepts related to circuit analysis, specifically using Thevenin's theorem, Kirchhoff's laws, and resistor combinations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of Thevenin's theorem and express uncertainty about combining resistors in the circuit. There are questions regarding the configuration of resistors and the treatment of the current source. Some participants suggest using Kirchhoff's laws directly instead of combining resistors.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their thoughts on how to approach the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of Thevenin's theorem and Kirchhoff's laws, but there is a lack of consensus on the specifics of the circuit configuration and the necessary information to proceed.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted lack of information regarding the value of the current source, which is impacting the ability to apply Kirchhoff's voltage law effectively. Participants are questioning the adequacy of the provided information to solve the problem.

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Homework Statement



A circuit problem and I think a picture could do a much better job than anything I could type.
Picture should be attached below if I didn't screw it up.

Homework Equations



I'm allowed to use Ohm's Law, resistor series/parallel combinations, superposition, Thevenin's theorem, KCL/KVL, voltage and current division.

The Attempt at a Solution



The only thing that really jumps out at me here is Thevenin's theorem. Unfortunately that's probably the concept I'm the least comfortable with so I'm a little unsure here.

My thought process so far was to open up the resistor R and calculate the Thevenin voltage and resistance.

I tried out the voltage first since it's usually the hardest and started off by combining the two resistors to the right because from my understanding (not 100% sure here) they're in parallel.

I'm unsure of how to treat the two remaining resistors though because of the mysterious current source in the middle between them. Since it's pushing current upwards, would it be okay to consider the two resistors in series?
 

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I tried out the voltage first since it's usually the hardest and started off by combining the two resistors to the right because from my understanding (not 100% sure here) they're in parallel.
Which two? The 6Ohm and 30Ohm? Actually it doesn't matter - none of them are in parallel.

You should be able to just apply kirkoffs laws directly without worrying about combining resistors.

I'd be tempted to find the equivalent voltage-source circuit for the current source and the 30Ohm resistor - or just look for the thevinin equivalent circuit for everything left of R.
 
The current of the current source is needed, it must have been given.

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My goal in combining resistors was to try to get a value for current somewhere and see where that would take me since I don't really see how I can apply KVL without any value for current.

As for the value of the current source, what's shown on the picture is all I know...
 
As for the value of the current source, what's shown on the picture is all I know...
Then you should probably go complain: there is not enough information.
 
The problem can be solved symbolically in terms of the unknown current.
 
Sure, you can find an expression for VR but not the value of it.
Which is a point - do we have the actual problem statement?
 

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