D/dx x(x^2 +1) ^{1 /2}/(x+1) ^{2 /3}

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The discussion focuses on finding the derivative of the function $$y=\frac{x(x^2 +1)^{1/2}}{(x+1)^{2/3}}$$ using logarithmic differentiation. Participants confirm that the quotient rule is applicable but recommend taking the natural logarithm of both sides to simplify the differentiation process. The final derivative is expressed as $$y' = y \left[\frac{1}{x} + \frac{x}{x^2+1} - \frac{2}{3(x+1)}\right].$$ This method effectively handles the complexity of the function.

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​$\large{242.q2.1c}$
Find the derivative
$$\displaystyle
y=\frac{x(x^2 +1) ^{1/2}}{(x+1)^{2/3}}$$
I know this is using the quotient rule but can't seem simplify this first
 
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karush said:
​$\large{242.q2.1c}$
Find the derivative
$$\displaystyle
y=\frac{x(x^2 +1) ^{1/2}}{(x+1)^{2/3}}$$
I know this is using the quotient rule but can't seem simplify this first

I do not see anything in common . So this cannot be simplified fisrt

you can take it of the form $\frac{u}{v}$ and then u as a product.
 

I suggest Logarithmic Differentiation.
 
soroban said:
I suggest Logarithmic Differentiation.

I think that's what was intended but missed the lecture on it
 
karush said:
I think that's what was intended but missed the lecture on it

Take the natural log of both sides, apply the rules of logs to the right side, then implicitly differentiate. :)
 
karush said:
\text{Find the derivative :}
$$\displaystyle
y=\frac{x(x^2 +1) ^{1/2}}{(x+1)^{2/3}}$$
\text{Take logs: }\; \ln y \;=\;\ln\left[\frac{x(x^2+1)^{\frac{1}{2}}}{(x+1)^{\frac{2}{3}}}\right] \;=\;\ln x + \ln(x^2+1)^{\frac{1}{2}} - \ln(x+1)^{\frac{2}{3}}

. .. .. .. . . . \ln y \;=\;\ln x + \tfrac{1}{2}\ln(x^2+1) - \tfrac{2}{3}\ln(x+1)

. . \frac{y'}{y} \;=\;\frac{1}{x} + \frac{1}{2}\frac{2x}{x^2+1} = \frac{2}{3}\frac{1}{x+1}

. . . . \text{ . . . etc. . . . }
 
$\displaystyle
\ln y \;=
\;\ln\left[\frac{x(x^2+1)^{\frac{1}{2}}}{(x+1)^{\frac{2}{3}}}\right] \\
=\ln x
+ \frac{1}{2}\ln(x^2+1) - \frac{2}{3}\ln(x+1)$

$\displaystyle
y' =y \left[\frac{1}{x}
+ \frac{x}{x^2+1}
- \frac{2}{3(x+1)}\right]
$

What is $\frac{y'}{y}$ ?
 
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karush said:
$\displaystyle
\ln y \;=
\;\ln\left[\frac{x(x^2+1)^{\frac{1}{2}}}{(x+1)^{\frac{2}{3}}}\right] \\
=\ln x
+ \frac{1}{2}\ln(x^2+1) - \frac{2}{3}\ln(x+1)$

$\displaystyle
y' =y \left[\frac{1}{x}
+ \frac{x}{x^2+1}
- \frac{2}{3(x+1)}\right]
$

What is $\frac{y'}{y}$ ?

Now that you have solved for $y'$, just substitute for $y$ and you will have the derivative as a function of $x$.
 
$\displaystyle \ln y \;=
\;\ln\left[\frac{x(x^2+1)^{\frac{1}{2}}}{(x+1)^{\frac{2}{3}}}\right] \\
=\;\ln x
+ \frac{1}{2}\ln(x^2+1) - \frac{2}{3}\ln(x+1)$

$\displaystyle
y' =\left[\frac{x(x^2+1)^{\frac{1}{2}}}{(x+1)^{\frac{2}{3}}}\right]
\left[\frac{1}{x}
+ \frac{x}{x^2+1}
- \frac{2}{3(x+1)}\right]
$
 
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