Damped Forced Harmonic Oscillations

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The discussion revolves around damped forced harmonic oscillations, specifically analyzing the behavior of a system where the external force is zero and the damping ratio is much less than twice the natural frequency. Participants are tasked with sketching the displacement over time and defining the quality factor, Q, while exploring how Q influences the waveform.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the implications of setting the external force to zero and the conditions under which the damping can be considered negligible. Questions arise regarding the adequacy of a graph to define Q and the nature of the oscillatory behavior under light damping.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the characteristics of the system under the given conditions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to consider the system's evolution after an initial impulse, and there is acknowledgment of light damping as a relevant case.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, particularly the assumption of zero external force and the implications of light damping on the system's behavior. There is an ongoing exploration of how these factors influence the waveform and the definition of Q.

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Homework Statement


If F0= 0 and γ<<2ω0 where γ=b/m, sketch the resulting wave-form for displacement with time.Define Q,the quality parameter,and show on your sketch how the value of Q, influences the waveform



Homework Equations


mψ'' =-kψ-bψ' +F0exp(-iωt)


The Attempt at a Solution


ωmax=(ω0-γ^2/2)^(1/2)
if γ <<2ω0 then ωmax=ω0,
An other question is :Is the graph enought to define Q? ,i.e at resonance F0/k is Q times more.
 

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You're not doing what the problem asked, which is to sketch x(t) vs. t. What kind of behavior do you get from this oscillator knowing that ϒ<<2ω0 and F0=0?
 
mψ'' =-kψ-bψ' +F0exp(-iωt)

If we divide the equation by m we get :
ψ''+ω0^2ψ+γψ'+F0exp(-iωt)=0 This is the most general equation for oscillations , (since γ=b/m and ω0=k/m)
So you are actualy saying that Since F0 is zero ,there is no external force#
and since γ<<2ω0 ,then approximately the term γψ' is also zero ,therefore additionally there is no damping
and therefore we have Simple Harmonic motion ?
 
Your original post said F0=0, so there's no driving force continually adding energy to the system. The problem wants you to show how the system evolves after an initial impulse is imparted to get it moving. Don't assume no damping, however.
 
Ok thanks ,problem solved it is light damping, i was looking for other cases...
 

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