Darboux theorem for symplectic manifold

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The discussion revolves around the application of Darboux's theorem to symplectic manifolds, particularly focusing on the properties of symplectic forms and their implications in the context of differential forms. Participants explore the implications of the theorem in relation to the dimensionality of forms and the conditions under which certain forms vanish.

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  • One participant questions why the form ##\theta \wedge (d\theta)^m## is identically the null form, given that ##\omega = d\theta## is a closed symplectic 2-form.
  • Another participant clarifies that ##(d\theta)^m## is a ##2m## form, leading to the conclusion that ##\theta \wedge (d\theta)^m## is a ##2m + 1## form on a ##2m## dimensional manifold, thus it vanishes.
  • A participant raises a point about the rank of the ##2##-form ##d\theta## in the context of Darboux's theorem, questioning whether it implies that ##(d\theta)^m \neq 0## and ##(d\theta)^{m+1} = 0##.
  • Another participant agrees with the interpretation of the rank, stating it is defined as the largest ##l## such that ##\omega^l \neq 0##.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of the rank of the forms and the conditions under which certain forms vanish. There is no consensus on the interpretation of the rank conditions related to the forms discussed.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the implications of the Poincaré lemma and the properties of forms in the context of symplectic geometry, but there are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions and implications of rank and dimensionality of forms.

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Application of Darboux theorem to symplectic manifold
Hi,

I am missing the point about the application of Darboux theorem to symplectic manifold case as explained here Darboux Theorem.

We start from a symplectic manifold of even dimension ##n=2m## with a symplectic differential 2-form ##w## defined on it. Since by definition the symplectic 2-form is closed (##d\omega=0##) then from Poincaré lemma there exist locally a 1-form ##\theta## such that ##\omega=d\theta##.

The point I'm missing is why ##\theta \wedge (d\theta)^m## is identically the null form.

Thank you.

p.s. ##(d\theta)^m## should be ##d\theta \wedge d\theta \wedge d\theta \wedge ...## ##m## times
 
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It will be a ##2m+1## form on a ##2m## dimensional manifold.
 
martinbn said:
It will be a ##2m+1## form on a ##2m## dimensional manifold.
If I understand correctly, you mean ##(d\theta)^m## is actually a ##2m## form just because it is the wedge product of ##m## 2-forms. Then ##\theta \wedge (d\theta)^m## is a ##2m +1## form on an ##2m## dimensional manifold hence it vanishes.

By the way...when we say it vanishes we actually mean it is the null form, right ?
 
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Another point related to the above.

Take the ##\Lambda^{m} V^*## vector space where the dimension of the underlying dual space ##V^*## is ##n##. That means the rank ##r## of a generic ##m##-form is ##r \leq dim \Lambda^{m} V^* = \begin{pmatrix} n \\ m \end {pmatrix}##.

In Darboux theorem's hypothesis the ##2##-form ##d\theta## is assumed to be with constant rank ##m=n/2##.
Does it actually mean ##(d\theta)^m \neq 0 ## and ##(d\theta)^{m+1} = 0## ?
 
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cianfa72 said:
Another point related to the above.

Take the ##\Lambda^{m} V^*## vector space where the dimension of the underlying dual space ##V^*## is ##n##. That means the rank ##r## of a generic ##m##-form is ##r \leq dim \Lambda^{m} V^* = \begin{pmatrix} n \\ m \end {pmatrix}##.

In Darboux theorem's hypothesis the ##2##-form ##d\theta## is assumed to be with constant rank ##m=n/2##.
Does it actually mean ##(d\theta)^m \neq 0 ## and of course ##(d\theta)^{m+1} = 0## ?
Yes, that's way I understood it, that is how the rank is defined. It is the largerst ##l## such that ##\omega^l\not = 0##.
 

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