Dark Matter as possible ground state for all matter

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The discussion centers on the hypothesis that Dark Matter (DM) may serve as a precursor or foundational state for Observable Matter (OM), particularly in the context of pre-Big Bang theories. Participants explore the implications of DM's gravitational interactions potentially exceeding the speed of light, questioning the constraints imposed by current gravitational theories. They highlight that while some cosmological models could be altered if DM effects were unconstrained by the speed of light, most theoretical frameworks remain robust under such assumptions. The conversation emphasizes the necessity for substantial evidence to support any theory that contradicts established physical laws.

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Are there any theories based upon Dark Matter (DM) being a precursor or sublayer or ground state to Observable Matter (OM)? Pre-Big Bang? Galaxy distribution linked to DM tendril intersections is consistent with DM providing a pre-existing structure.

Any theories based upon DM interactions being able to occur faster than the speed of light since DM only interacts with OM gravitationally?

Are there experiments which indicate that gravitational effects are limited to the speed of light? If DM gravitational effects are not constrained by "c", wouldn't a lot of cosmology ideas be changed?

Do such theories provide alternative solutions to questions answered by Big Bang, Inflation Theory, Quantum Theory? Maybe DM scale is below Plank size limit.
 
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Bill Minerick said:
Are there any theories based upon Dark Matter (DM) being a precursor or sublayer or ground state to Observable Matter (OM)? Pre-Big Bang? Galaxy distribution linked to DM tendril intersections is consistent with DM providing a pre-existing structure.

Ground state? I don't see how. The ground state of a material still interacts through whatever forces it does when it's not in its ground state. The structure of dark matter is the result of gravitational collapse, not a pre-existing structure.

Any theories based upon DM interactions being able to occur faster than the speed of light since DM only interacts with OM gravitationally?

Gravitation is limited to c as well.

Do such theories provide alternative solutions to questions answered by Big Bang, Inflation Theory, Quantum Theory? Maybe DM scale is below Plank size limit.

If your theory breaks a fundamental law of physics, let alone multiple ones, you need to have amazingly good evidence to justify it. Otherwise it doesn't matter if the theory provides answers, as those answers are probably wrong.
 
Bill Minerick said:
Are there experiments which indicate that gravitational effects are limited to the speed of light?

There are a few GR experiments, but these is something hard to directly measure. There are lots of theoretical reasons to think that gravity moves at the speed of light.

If DM gravitational effects are not constrained by "c", wouldn't a lot of cosmology ideas be changed?

If DM gravitational effects weren't constrained by "c", there would be some changes, but surprisingly few ones. Most of the effects of dark matter end up being pressure effects, which means that if you set "c=infinity" there are relatively few changes. Everything is controlled by the speed of sound which is much lower than then speed of gravity.

One common approximation that people make in cosmology is to set "speed of light=infinity". It turns out that this approximation doesn't change very much, since the speed of gravity doesn't cause many observational differences.

This is the flip side to the first answer. If the speed of gravity makes a big difference, we can do an experiment. If it turns out that it's hard to do an experiment to measure the speed of gravity, that means that's it's not going to have much practical effect.

Do such theories provide alternative solutions to questions answered by Big Bang, Inflation Theory, Quantum Theory? Maybe DM scale is below Plank size limit.

The trouble we have are too many alternatives. The hard part is not assuming this new weird thing about DM, but showing it this is wrong.
 

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