Data Mining, not technical books?

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The discussion revolves around the topic of data mining, specifically seeking recommendations for books that provide an introductory understanding of the subject without being overly technical. Participants explore the balance between popular science and academic-level material, as well as the mathematical and statistical foundations of data mining.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses interest in finding a book on data mining that is not too technical and suggests a desire for a "divulgative-level" resource.
  • Another participant asks whether the original poster wants a deep understanding of the techniques or a more superficial knowledge for practical use.
  • The original poster clarifies that they are looking for a general framework of data mining, focusing on the underlying mathematics and statistics rather than detailed techniques.
  • A suggestion is made for a book related to the Rattle package in R, which includes various data mining techniques.
  • The original poster indicates that they have limited programming knowledge and questions the suitability of the suggested book based on their background.
  • A participant recommends a specific book that they found useful during their undergraduate studies, noting that it is theory-based but also practical, and provides a link to a sample chapter.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need for resources that bridge popular science and academic content, but there is no consensus on specific book recommendations that meet the original poster's criteria.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the original poster's curiosity about data mining without a specific application in mind, indicating a desire for foundational knowledge rather than technical proficiency.

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Hi everyone!
I just discovered this new branch of statistics/informatics called "data mining", and I was wondering if anyone could suggest me a nice book about it, maybe some not too technical lecture? Otherwise any academic introductory book? What do you think about this subject?
Thanks!
 
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Hey AmenoParallax and welcome to the forums.

Do you want to actually learn about the techniques in a deep way (how they are derived, how they work, and the background of such techniques) or do you just want to learn the techniques in a way that you mostly use them without really understanding them in detail?
 
chiro said:
Hey AmenoParallax and welcome to the forums.

Do you want to actually learn about the techniques in a deep way (how they are derived, how they work, and the background of such techniques) or do you just want to learn the techniques in a way that you mostly use them without really understanding them in detail?

Hi chiro!
My aim is not actually to learn the techniques, but to acquire the generic framework of the subject. My intention was to find any "divulgative-level" book, something between popular science information and academic level. I understand that given the technicality of the subject there may not be such a book, so I'm open to any suggestions about higher level book, as long as there are not too much deep details. So, to answer your question, I'd like to begin with something that can teach me the basis, where I can learn the techniques with marginal knowledge and without understanding them in details.
Thank you!
 
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Well thank you chiro, I'll consider that book, but I see that it's about a specific programmation language, which I don't know at all. Actually, all I know about programming is some basics of MatLab, so maybe that's not suitable for me... (although I'm going to check it out).
I see now that my request was unclear, and I want to be more specific: I'm looking for something about the mathematics and statistics on which data mining is based, that's what I meant with "generic framework". My fault, sorry...
Besides, I'm not really going to apply the knowledge I'm looking for about data mining, it's more like curiosity. Anyway, if I will find out useful material suitable for the subject of my studies (namely astrophysics) I'll definitely try to get deeper knowledge about data mining techniques.
So that's it, I hope to receive more and more suggestions! :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
 

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