Decompose Vector (2,3,-1): Find Distance to Subspace

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The problem involves decomposing the vector (2, 3, -1) into components from a specified subspace and its orthogonal complement. The subspace is defined by vectors of the form (x, 2y, x), and the task includes finding the distance from the given vector to this subspace.

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  • Participants discuss the determination of the orthogonal complement and the kernel of the transformation associated with the subspace. There are questions regarding the dimensionality of the kernel and the correctness of the original poster's assertion that it contains only the zero vector.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants questioning the assumptions made about the kernel and the dimensionality of the subspace. Some guidance has been offered regarding the transformation matrix, but no consensus has been reached on the decomposition or distance calculation.

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There is a noted confusion about the dimensionality of the kernel and the appropriate domain for the transformation, which may impact the understanding of the problem setup.

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Homework Statement


There is a subspace that contains all the vectors in the form (x, 2y, x). Decompose the vector (2, 3, -1) into a sum of an element from the orthogonal complement of this subspace and an element from the subspace. Find the distance from (2, 3, -1) to this subspace.

The Attempt at a Solution


To find the orthogonal complement of this subspace, I found the kernel, which in this case happens to only contain the zero vector. That means only a particular solution exists, but obviously (2, 3, -1) is not a particular solution, so I'm not sure how to decompose this, much less find the distance.
 
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PhizKid said:

Homework Statement


There is a subspace that contains all the vectors in the form (x, 2y, x). Decompose the vector (2, 3, -1) into a sum of an element from the orthogonal complement of this subspace and an element from the subspace. Find the distance from (2, 3, -1) to this subspace.

The Attempt at a Solution


To find the orthogonal complement of this subspace, I found the kernel, which in this case happens to only contain the zero vector. That means only a particular solution exists, but obviously (2, 3, -1) is not a particular solution, so I'm not sure how to decompose this, much less find the distance.

Why do you say the kernel is only the zero vector? ##(x,2y,x)=x(1,0,1)+y(0,2,0)## is clearly only two dimensional.
 
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Found the kernel of what?
 
The kernel of
##\ \left( \begin{array}{ccc}
1 & 0 \\
0 & 1 \\
1 & 0 \end{array} \right)##
 
Your domain should be R3, not R2.
 
So then it's:
##\ \left( \begin{array}{ccc}
1 & 0 & 0 \\
0 & 1 & 0 \\
1 & 0 & 0 \end{array} \right)##
?
 
PhizKid said:
So then it's:
##\ \left( \begin{array}{ccc}
1 & 0 & 0 \\
0 & \color{red}{2} & 0 \\
1 & 0 & 0 \end{array} \right)##
?

Yes, that matrix represents the transformation ##(x,y,z)\rightarrow (x,2y,x)##.

[Edit]: There would be a 2 in the center.
 
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