Definite Integral with Absolute Value.

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The integral problem involves calculating ∫x^2 - 3x - 5 from -4 to 7, with the necessity to account for the absolute value of the function. The integrals were divided into three segments, but the calculations yielded an incorrect final answer of 76.691, while a calculator provided 83.2233. The main error identified is the neglect of the absolute value, which affects the sign of the integrals, particularly in the segment from [-1.1926, 4.1926]. Using exact values for the limits instead of approximations is also crucial for accuracy. The discussion emphasizes the importance of correctly handling absolute values in definite integrals.
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The problem is ∫x^2 - 3x - 5 with the lower limit being -4 and the upper limit 7.

I broke the integrals into three parts from [-4, -1.1926], [-1.1926, 4.1926], [4.1926, 7]

I did the integral and got (x^3)/3 - (3/2)x^2 - 5x

I subbed in the lower and upper limits and got 32.861 for [-4, -1.1926], 15.231 for [-1.1926, 4.1926], and finally 28.957 for [4.1926, 7].

I don't necessarily need a step by step solution ( though it would be greatly appreciated). I would really just like to know if you can spot which/where I am getting the wrong value(s).

EDIT: The final answer I keep getting is 76.691. The answer I get when I use a definite integral calculator is 83.2233
 
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m0gh said:
The problem is ∫x^2 - 3x - 5 with the lower limit being -4 and the upper limit 7.
Is this your integral?
$$ \int_{-4}^7 |x^2 - 3x - 5|dx$$
m0gh said:
I broke the integrals into three parts from [-4, -1.1926], [-1.1926, 4.1926], [4.1926, 7]

I did the integral and got (x^3)/3 - (3/2)x^2 - 5x
The above is incorrect. You are ignoring the fact that there's an absolute value involved. The key idea is that |a| = a if a ≥ 0, but |a| = -a if a < 0.

Also, the approximate numbers you use aren't exact, so whatever answer you get will be off some.
m0gh said:
I subbed in the lower and upper limits and got 32.861 for [-4, -1.1926], 15.231 for [-1.1926, 4.1926], and finally 28.957 for [4.1926, 7].

I don't necessarily need a step by step solution ( though it would be greatly appreciated). I would really just like to know if you can spot which/where I am getting the wrong value(s).
It is against the rules in this forum to provide a complete answer, so a step-by-step solution isn't going to happen.
m0gh said:
EDIT: The final answer I keep getting is 76.691. The answer I get when I use a definite integral calculator is 83.2233
 
The part you are saying is incorrect was set up by my professor. She put a negative sign in front of the integral for [-1.1926, 4.1926]
 
m0gh said:
The part you are saying is incorrect was set up by my professor. She put a negative sign in front of the integral for [-1.1926, 4.1926]
Which you didn't mention.

Anyway, I get 83.2233 as well, so all I can say is that you have an error in one or more of your integrals. Also, as I mentioned already, you should be using the exact numbers for the limits of integration, rather than the decimal approximations. That is, you should be using ##3/2 - \sqrt{29}/2## and ##3/2 + \sqrt{29}/2##, although I suspect that the difference you're getting is caused by an error somewhere else.
 
m0gh said:
The problem is ∫x^2 - 3x - 5 with the lower limit being -4 and the upper limit 7.

I broke the integrals into three parts from [-4, -1.1926], [-1.1926, 4.1926], [4.1926, 7]

I did the integral and got (x^3)/3 - (3/2)x^2 - 5x

I subbed in the lower and upper limits and got 32.861 for [-4, -1.1926], 15.231 for [-1.1926, 4.1926], and finally 28.957 for [4.1926, 7].

I don't necessarily need a step by step solution ( though it would be greatly appreciated). I would really just like to know if you can spot which/where I am getting the wrong value(s).

EDIT: The final answer I keep getting is 76.691. The answer I get when I use a definite integral calculator is 83.2233

The two in red are incorrect.
 
Question: A clock's minute hand has length 4 and its hour hand has length 3. What is the distance between the tips at the moment when it is increasing most rapidly?(Putnam Exam Question) Answer: Making assumption that both the hands moves at constant angular velocities, the answer is ## \sqrt{7} .## But don't you think this assumption is somewhat doubtful and wrong?

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