Definite Integrals: Prerequisites for Property

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The discussion revolves around the prerequisites for the property of definite integrals, specifically the equation $$\int_a^b f(x) dx = \int_a^c f(x) dx + \int_c^b f(x) dx$$. Participants explore whether the point ##c## must lie within the interval ##[a,b]## and the implications of the function ##f## being defined at ##c##.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that ##c## need not be within ##[a,b]##, arguing that it is subtracted in the equation.
  • Others question the necessity of ##f(c)## being defined, with one participant stating that it does not matter since ##f(c)## is subtracted.
  • Another participant asserts that ##c## must be such that ##f## is defined and differentiable on some interval containing ##a##, ##b##, and ##c##, providing a specific example to illustrate this point.
  • Concerns are raised about the implications of using a value of ##c## where the function is not defined, suggesting that it would hinder problem-solving.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether ##c## must be within the interval ##[a,b]## and the necessity of ##f(c)## being defined. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions about the continuity and differentiability of the function ##f##, as well as the implications of choosing ##c## outside the interval.

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I have a few questions about the following property of definite integrals:
$$\int_a^b f(x) dx = \int_a^c f(x) dx + \int_c^b f(x) dx$$
What exactly are the prerequisites for this property?
Should ##c## be a member of ##[a,b]##? Should the function ##f## be defined at ##c##?
 
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c need not be within [a,b]. Itis because c is going to be subtracted
 
fireflies said:
c need not be within [a,b]. Itis because c is going to be subtracted
Could you please elaborate? And what about the existence of ##f(c)##?
 
If f'(x) is differentiation of f(x) with respect to x, then

∫ f'(x) = f(x) + c

And within limit b to a it will be f(b)-f(a)

Look at the right hand side, there is a sum of two integrals having limit c to a, and b to c.
So R.H.S={f(c)-f(a)} + {f(b)-f(c)}

So the f(c) is subtracted and finally it is f(b)-f(a) like the L.H.S

So, c need not be within [a,b]

I am not sure if f(c) should be defined.
As f(c) is getting subtracted so it does not matter. But generally an equation is used for solving problems. If you take such value of c where the function is not defined, you cannot use the equation to solve the problem.
 
c must be such that f is defined and differentiable on some interval containing a, b and c. For example, if a< b< c, then we have \int_a^b f(x)dx+ \int_b^c f(x)dx= \int_a^c f(x)dx so that \int_a^b f(x) dx= \int_a^c f(x)dx- \int_b^c f(x)dx= \int_a^c f(x)dx+ \int_c^b f(x)dx. I have no idea what firefly meant by "c is going to be subtracted'.
 
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