Definition of Momentum in terms of a partial derivative

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the definition of momentum in quantum mechanics as presented in a video lecture. Participants are exploring the implications of certain terms being omitted in the definition, particularly the roles of iota and ħ, as well as other terms that appear to be negligible.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the omission of iota and ħ in the definition of momentum and seeks clarification on the negligible terms mentioned.
  • Another participant requests a reference to the video lecture and additional context from the slide to better understand the definition.
  • A later reply suggests that the omission of terms may have been an oversight during the filming of the video, indicating that the speaker acknowledged the need to include certain terms.
  • It is noted that the terms considered negligible are actually derivatives with respect to other spherical coordinates, which are said to be irrelevant in this context.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the significance of the omitted terms and whether they should be considered negligible. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these omissions on the definition of momentum.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions about the assumptions underlying the definition and the context in which certain terms are considered negligible or relevant.

Rahe
Dear Members,

I was going through some video lecture (Quantum Mechanics) when I encountered a definition of momentum as shown in the attached picture.

I do not understand how iota and ħ is ignored ? There are some negligible terms after plus sign. What are those ? In short how they have defied this definition of Momentum ?

thanks
Rahe
 

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Rahe said:
Dear Members,

I was going through some video lecture (Quantum Mechanics) when I encountered a definition of momentum as shown in the attached picture.

I do not understand how iota and ħ is ignored ? There are some negligible terms after plus sign. What are those ? In short how they have defied this definition of Momentum ?

thanks
Rahe
Could you give a reference to the video lecture, and show more of that particular slide?
 
Chandra Prayaga said:
Could you give a reference to the video lecture, and show more of that particular slide?

Thanks for the reply. Kindly find below the link.


The time is 15:47 where this definition is mentioned.

Thank you for the consideration.
 
Rahe said:
The time is 15:47 where this definition is mentioned.
If you listen carefully, you will hear that she says "apart from ##-i \hbar##, which we should remember to put in." The sound is a bit different, which hints at the fact that she just forgot to add the terms when the video was filmed, and the audio comment was added afterwards.

Rahe said:
There are some negligible terms after plus sign. What are those ?
They are not negligible terms, they are the derivatives with respect to the other spherical coordinates (##\theta, \phi##), which are not relevant here (since they commute with ##r##).
 

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