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Non-lattice refers to points in a vector space that cannot be formed from basis vectors using integer coefficients, often characterized by having at least one irrational coordinate. In the context of random variables, non-lattice variables are distinct from lattice variables, which take values as integer multiples of a specific number. The discussion suggests that non-lattice random variables may not necessarily be continuous, as they can still be discrete but lack the lattice structure. This distinction is important in modeling scenarios, particularly in game theory and equilibrium sets. Understanding non-lattice random variables is crucial for accurate mathematical modeling in various fields.
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In section 3 of this paper (bottom of 4th page):

http://www.bjmath.com/bjmath/breiman/breiman.pdf

Breiman said:
THEOREM 1. If the random variables W*1, W*2, ... are nonlattice, then for any strategy ...

What does nonlattice mean? Thank you.
 
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techmologist said:
What does nonlattice mean? Thank you.

A lattice can be represented by a discrete subspace which spans the vector space R^n. Any point which cannot be generated from the basis vectors by a linear combination with integer coefficients is a non-lattice point (a point with at least one irrational coordinate).
 


SW VandeCarr said:
A lattice can be represented by a discrete subspace which spans the vector space R^n. Any point which cannot be generated from the basis vectors by a linear combination with integer coefficients is a non-lattice point (a point with at least one irrational coordinate).


Yeah, that's the only mathematical notion of lattice I am familiar with. Like in crystal structures. But I wasn't sure what it meant in this context: "nonlattice random variables". Is it just a fancy way of saying that the random variables are continuous--or that they attain their limiting values or something like that?
 


techmologist said:
Yeah, that's the only mathematical notion of lattice I am familiar with. Like in crystal structures. But I wasn't sure what it meant in this context: "nonlattice random variables". Is it just a fancy way of saying that the random variables are continuous--or that they attain their limiting values or something like that?

I don't know. I've seen several papers that use this terminology instead of "continuous". Here's one:

http://econpapers.repec.org/paper/pramprapa/4120.htm

It must have something to do with the modeling of games in terms of "equilibrium sets".
 


A "lattice" random variable has all values integer multiples of some one number. This is not the same as "discrete" random variable. For example, if X has only the values 1 and \sqrt{2} is would be discrete but not lattice.
 


g_edgar said:
A "lattice" random variable has all values integer multiples of some one number. This is not the same as "discrete" random variable. For example, if X has only the values 1 and \sqrt{2} is would be discrete but not lattice.

OK. So a discrete RV can be non-lattice provided it ranges over a countable set? (It's a rhetorical question. No need to respond unless you disagree.) Thanks.
 
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g_edgar said:
A "lattice" random variable has all values integer multiples of some one number. This is not the same as "discrete" random variable. For example, if X has only the values 1 and \sqrt{2} is would be discrete but not lattice.

Thank you for that definition :).

SW Vandecarr said:
I don't know. I've seen several papers that use this terminology instead of "continuous". Here's one:

http://econpapers.repec.org/paper/pramprapa/4120.htm

It must have something to do with the modeling of games in terms of "equilibrium sets".

Thanks for the link.
 
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