Del Operator for Cylindrical Coordinate

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The discussion revolves around the del operator in cylindrical coordinates, specifically questioning the form of the operator and the origin of the 1/r term. Participants are exploring the mathematical implications of coordinate transformations and the behavior of unit vectors in curvilinear coordinates.

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  • Participants are questioning why one form of the del operator is preferred over another and how the 1/r term is derived. There are references to general curvilinear coordinates and the changing nature of unit vectors in cylindrical coordinates.

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Some participants have provided references to external resources that may clarify the derivation of the del operator in cylindrical coordinates. The conversation is ongoing, with multiple interpretations being explored regarding the mathematical foundations of the operator.

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Why is the del operator for cylindrical coordinate the upper one and not the lower one? How does the 1/r term arises?
 
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You could read about general curvilinear coordinates and that should answer your question (plus it will also explain the factors in other expressions from different coordinate systems like e.g. spherical polar coordinates). Basically the unit vectors change with position in cylindrical coordinates and that is why the factor appears.

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Hi Harmony! :smile:

(have a del: ∇ and a theta: θ and a curly d: ∂ :wink:)
Harmony said:
Why is the del operator for cylindrical coordinate the upper one and not the lower one? How does the 1/r term arises?

().eθ has to be the rate of increase per distance in the eθ direction …

but ∂/∂θ is the rate of increase per angle

and distance (in the eθ direction) is r times angle. :wink:
 
Also, in case the link I provided in my previous post becomes unavailable, PF members arildno and HallsOfIvy walk through the same derivation in another thread here on Physics Forum.

Check it out under Physics Forums>Mathematics>General Math -> Thread = "Del operator with coordinate transformations"
 

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