Dependance of radiation properties on wavelength

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the dependence of absorptivity, reflectivity, and transmissivity of surfaces on the wavelength of incident light. Participants explore how various factors, including material structure and surface characteristics, influence these properties across different wavelengths.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that the absorptivity, reflectivity, and transmissivity of a surface are indeed dependent on the wavelength of the incident light.
  • Others highlight that the atomic and electronic arrangement, molecular structure, and surface texture all play a role in how electromagnetic waves of varying frequencies interact with a surface.
  • A participant provides examples, such as a black-painted metal plate reflecting microwaves while absorbing infrared and visible light, and the iridescence of peacock feathers, to illustrate wavelength-dependent behavior.
  • There is a suggestion that the context of the question could vary, indicating multiple interpretations of the dependence on wavelength.
  • One participant introduces Kirchhoff's Law of radiation, stating that emissivity and absorptivity are equal at a given wavelength, which could prevent perpetual heat transfer without a temperature difference.
  • Concerns are raised about the implications of surface color on absorptivity and how this affects thermal radiation interactions, particularly in non-equilibrium scenarios like spacecraft orientation relative to the Sun.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that wavelength affects the interaction of light with surfaces, but there are multiple competing views regarding the implications and interpretations of these interactions. The discussion remains unresolved on certain aspects, particularly regarding the broader implications of Kirchhoff's Law and specific examples provided.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the definitions of absorptivity and emissivity may not be fully articulated, and the discussion does not resolve the complexities of how different materials behave at various wavelengths.

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Do the absorptivity, reflectivity and transmissivity of a surface depend on the wavelength of the incident light?
 
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Yes- absolutely. It's determined by the atomic / electronic arrangement, the molecular structure of the material on both sides and also the coarse structure of the surface.
 
I was asking about the dependence on wavelength of light being reflected, transmitted or absorbed.
 
All those factors will affect the way that em waves of different frequencies will behave when they hit the surface.
There are many examples in which different frequencies are affected differently. Imagine a metal plate, painted black. It will reflect microwaves but absorb infra red and light. When you see the irridescent colour of a peacock feather, it is because the surface has reflected certain wavelengths of light and absorbed others. Coloured Paint (pigment) will reflect some wavelengths and absorb others. etc. etc.

What is the actual context of your question? It could be taken in several different ways.
 
sophiecentaur said:
There are many examples in which different frequencies are affected differently. Imagine a metal plate, painted black. It will reflect microwaves but absorb infra red and light. When you see the irridescent colour of a peacock feather, it is because the surface has reflected certain wavelengths of light and absorbed others. Coloured Paint (pigment) will reflect some wavelengths and absorb others. etc. etc.
That is what motivated me to ask this question. In texts, the absorptivity is often given as the ratio of energy absorbed to the incident energy and interpreted as a property of the surface. They don't say energy of what wavelength.
 
So you're talking in terms of the way objects interact with thermal radiation, perhaps. The 'colour' of an object, will affect the absorptivity at certain wavelengths (by definition). However, Kirchoff Law of radiation says that the emissivity and absorptivity of a surface are the same at any given wavelength. This is necessary, I think, to avoid the possibility of a system in which heat is constantly pumped 'for free' from one object to another, without needing a temperature difference if you chose the colours of the two objects appropriately.
A highly reflective surface (or transmissive medium) will not be a good radiator or absorber. A highly absorbtive (it would be opaque) substance will also be a good radiator.

If you had two objects in an insulated, massless laboratory (in a perfectly silvered sphere), they would both reach the same equilibrium temperature, whatever their colours (one black, one shiny or one green, one red). Of course, if you have a spacecraft with a shiny side pointing at the Sun and a black side facing away, it will end up a lot cooler than if it's orientated the other way round - because its surroundings are not in equilibrium (heat is always flowing from the Sun out into space).
The above is a bit garbled but I think it may have some relevant ideas. Was it of help or just more adding confusion?
 

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