Dependence of an electric field on distance

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SUMMARY

The discussion centers on the behavior of electric fields generated by point charges and electric dipoles. A proton moving away from a charged object experiences a change in electric field magnitude, which is described by the equation E = kq / r^2. When considering an electric dipole, the correct equation to use is E = kqa / z^3, which accounts for the dipole's orientation and distance. The initial assumption that the electric field would increase to 2 times its original magnitude was incorrect; the correct understanding involves recognizing the dependence on the dipole's configuration.

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  • Understanding of electric fields and Coulomb's law
  • Familiarity with electric dipoles and their properties
  • Knowledge of vector calculus as it applies to electric field calculations
  • Basic algebra for manipulating equations
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  • Study the derivation and applications of the electric dipole field equation E = kqa / z^3
  • Explore the differences between point charge and dipole electric fields
  • Learn about the superposition principle in electric fields
  • Investigate the effects of distance on electric field strength in various configurations
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Homework Statement


A proton located several proton diameters away from a small charged object carrying charge q is subject to an electric field of magnitude E. As the proton moves a distance d along the x-axis away from the object, the electric field magnitude drops to E/4.

If the charged object had instead been an electric dipole (with a charge of magnitude q on each end) oriented in the z direction, by what factor would the initial electric field magnitude E have changed as the proton receded by distance d along the x axis?

The electric field magnitude will be increased to 2 times the original field magnitude .
The electric field magnitude will be decreased to 1/8 of the original field magnitude .
The electric field magnitude will be increased to 8 times the original field magnitude.
The electric field magnitude will be decreased to 1/2 of the original field magnitude.
The electric field magnitude will be decreased to 1/4 of the original field magnitude .
The electric field magnitude will be increased to 4 times the original field magnitude .

Homework Equations


E = kq / r^2

The Attempt at a Solution


E / 4 = 2 kq / d^2

So, after setting up this equation I thought that the electric field magnitude will be increased to 2 times the original magnitude. This answer was incorrect. What am I doing wrong..?
 
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Take a look at your equation for the electric field. Does it depend on the probe charge that you put on the space?
 
JulioHC said:
Take a look at your equation for the electric field. Does it depend on the probe charge that you put on the space?

it depends on other variables as well, right?
 
downbra said:
it depends on other variables as well, right?
It depends on the distance from the source charge and in the charge of the source. So, does the change in the electric field depends on the probe charge?
 
JulioHC said:
It depends on the distance from the source charge and in the charge of the source. So, does the change in the electric field depends on the probe charge?

it depends on the distance from the source as well
 
downbra said:

Homework Equations


E = kq / r^2

The Attempt at a Solution


E / 4 = 2 kq / d^2
How did you come up with this equation? You should think about what the relevant equation you listed is for. Does it apply here?
 
Remember that an electric dipole is a positive charge on one side and a negative charge on the other side.
 
JulioHC said:
Take a look at your equation for the electric field. Does it depend on the probe charge that you put on the space?
You've misunderstood the problem.
 
vela said:
You've misunderstood the problem.
You are right. I'm very sorry if I have caused any confusion.
 
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vela said:
How did you come up with this equation? You should think about what the relevant equation you listed is for. Does it apply here?
the equation I listed is for electric fields. My thought was since their are 2 charges I should add a 2 in front of the q. I guess their is some new equation I wasn't taught...?
 
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That equation is for the electric field of a point charge, so it doesn't apply for a dipole, which is what you have here.
 
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vela said:
That equation is for the electric field of a point charge, so it doesn't apply for a dipole, which is what you have here.
after some digging, is this the right equation? E=kqa / z^3
 
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You tell us. Remember you're going to need to decide on these things on your own on the exam!
 

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