Derivation of angular frequency equation

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The discussion revolves around deriving the angular frequency equation (ω=√(g/L)) from the provided equations related to angular motion. The subject area includes concepts from dynamics and oscillatory motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss how to start the derivation, with one suggesting taking the second derivative of the angular position equation. Questions arise regarding the treatment of constants in the equations, specifically θmax.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different approaches to derive the equation. Some guidance has been offered regarding the treatment of constants, but no consensus or resolution has been reached yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of deriving the equation from the given equations without additional information or context. There is an emphasis on understanding the relationships between the variables involved.

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Homework Statement


Derive the angular frequency equation (ω=√(g/L) from following equations:


Homework Equations


1) ((d^2)*θ)/(d*t^2)= (-g/L)*θ
2) θ=θmaxcos(ωt+δ)

The Attempt at a Solution


I don't even know where to start
 
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AToMic93 said:

Homework Statement


Derive the angular frequency equation (ω=√(g/L) from following equations:


Homework Equations


1) ((d^2)*θ)/(d*t^2)= (-g/L)*θ
2) θ=θmaxcos(ωt+δ)

The Attempt at a Solution


I don't even know where to start

(1) tells you that ##\frac{d^2\theta}{dt^2}## is (-g/L)θ. (2) gives you a formula for θ. If you were only given (2), how would you find an expression for ##\frac{d^2\theta}{dt^2}## from it?
 
Would you take the second derivative with respect to time? (giving d2/dt2) then set this equal to the other equation?
 
AToMic93 said:
Would you take the second derivative with respect to time? (giving d2/dt2) then set this equal to the other equation?

I suggest you give it a try :wink:
 
So the main question I have then is for when I'm deriving how do I deal with the θmax? Do I treat it just like θ or do I treat it like a constant?
 
AToMic93 said:
So the main question I have then is for when I'm deriving how do I deal with the θmax? Do I treat it just like θ or do I treat it like a constant?
It is, of course, a constant. But do keep in mind that θ = θmaxcos(ωt + δ) :wink:
 
Alright I got it. Thanks
 
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