Derivation of angular velocity using the unit circle

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The discussion revolves around the derivation of angular velocity using the unit circle, specifically focusing on the formula $$\omega = \frac{Δα}{Δt}$$ and its relation to trigonometric functions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the definition of angular velocity and its derivation through the unit circle, questioning how it relates to sine and cosine functions. Some express a desire to understand the origins of the formula rather than simply restating it.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing definitions and expressing curiosity about deriving the formula using the unit circle. There is an acknowledgment that definitions cannot be derived, yet a desire to connect the definition to geometric interpretations persists.

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Participants note the common use of polar angles such as ##\theta## or ##\phi## in the context of angular velocity, and there is an emphasis on uniform circular motion as a specific case of angular velocity.

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Homework Statement
I am looking for a good derivation of $$ \ ω = \frac{Δα}{Δt} \ $$
, starting from the unit circle. My approach would be to first construct a right-angled triangle (Pythagorean theorem), then express $$ cos(α) $$ for the ankathete and $$ sin(α) $$ as the anticathete. Then I have a point on the arc of the circle (r=1). How do I get a suitable derivation for the initial formula of the angular velocity?
Relevant Equations
$$ \ Δα = α_2 - α_1 \ $$
$$ \ ω = \frac{Δα}{Δt} \ $$
 
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jnuz73hbn said:
Homework Statement: I am looking for a good derivation of $$ \ ω = \frac{Δα}{Δt} \ $$
That's essentiallly the definition, although usually ##\theta## or ##\phi## is used as the polar angle. The definition of angular velocity is $$\omega = \lim_{\Delta t \to 0} \frac{\Delta \theta}{\Delta t} = \frac{d\theta}{dt}$$See, for example:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angular_velocity
 
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PeroK said:
That's essentiallly the definition, although usually ##\theta## or ##\phi## is used as the polar angle. The definition of angular velocity is $$\lim_{\Delta t \to 0} \frac{\Delta \theta}{\Delta t}$$See, for example:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angular_velocity
however, i wanted to go via the unit circle with sinus and cosine to derive exactly this definition
 
jnuz73hbn said:
however, i wanted to go via the unit circle with sinus and cosine to derive exactly this definition
By definition, you can't derive a definition.
 
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PeroK said:
By definition, you can't derive a definition.
I just want to know where the formula comes from using the unit circle or how it relates to sin cos in the unit circle
 
jnuz73hbn said:
I just want to know where the formula comes from using the unit circle or how it relates to sin cos in the unit circle
In plane polar coordinates, angular velocity ##\omega## is defined as ##\omega = \frac{d\theta}{dt}##. This means that, for example, uniform circular motion about the origin is given by:
$$x = R\cos(\omega t), \ y = R\sin(\omega t)$$
 
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