Derivative of (2/x) + (1/y) = 4 and

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In summary: I understand it now.In summary, the two equations, \frac{2}{x}+\frac{1}{y}=4 and 2y+x=4xy, are equivalent as long as x≠0 and y≠0. Implicit differentiation can be used to find the derivative of either equation, and multiplying the original equation by x y will result in the second equation. Keep in mind that it is not possible to find the derivative of an equation, but rather the derivative of each side of the equation with respect to some variable.
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Can you somehow show that the derivative of [tex]\frac{2}{x}+\frac{1}{y}=4[/tex] is the same as [tex]2y+x=4xy[/tex] if x≠0 and y≠0? Or is that not true?
 
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autodidude said:
Can you somehow show that the derivative of [tex]\frac{2}{x}+\frac{1}{y}=4[/tex] is the same as [tex]2y+x=4xy[/tex] if x≠0 and y≠0? Or is that not true?

Yes you can do this (provided your condition that you have non-zero values for y and x) since algebraically both are equivalent (again assuming non-zero values).

The rest is going to be implicit differentiation, but again you have to consider that there will be holes at x = 0 and also at y = 0 where the function is defined for either of these values.
 
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Thanks chiro. To do so, would you just differentiate each equation and manipulate one of the derivatives until it's equivalent to the other? (again, with x and y no equal to 0
 
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You don't even have to do that much. just multiply the original equation by [itex]x y[/itex]. You will get the second equation. Multiplying by [itex]x y[/itex] is justified only when:
[tex]
x y \neq 0 \Leftrightarrow x \neq 0 \wedge y \neq 0
[/tex]
 
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Is this your question?
autodidude said:
Can you somehow show that the derivative of [tex]\frac{2}{x}+\frac{1}{y}=4[/tex] is the same as the derivative of [tex]2y+x=4xy[/tex] if x≠0 and y≠0? Or is that not true?

As Dickfore already said, the two equations are equivalent, as long as x≠0 and y≠0, so implicit differentiation would produce the same values for dy/dx in both equations. Keep in mind that it makes no sense to talk about the "derivative of an equation." You can implicitly differentiate both sides of an equation with respect to some variable, though, and then solve algebraically for dy/dx (or whatever derivative you're looking for).
 
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Thanks guys
 

1. What is the derivative of (2/x) + (1/y) = 4?

The derivative of (2/x) + (1/y) = 4 is -2/x^2 - 1/y^2 = 0.

2. How do you find the derivative of a fraction?

To find the derivative of a fraction, use the quotient rule which states that the derivative of f(x)/g(x) is (g(x)f'(x) - f(x)g'(x)) / (g(x))^2.

3. Can you simplify the derivative of (2/x) + (1/y) = 4?

Yes, the derivative can be simplified to (-2xy + y)/(x^2y^2) = 0.

4. What is the purpose of finding the derivative?

The derivative is used to find the rate of change of a function at a specific point. It can also help determine the slope of a curve and the maximum and minimum values of a function.

5. How do you solve for x and y in (2/x) + (1/y) = 4?

To solve for x and y, you can rearrange the equation to isolate one variable and then plug in the resulting expression into the other variable. For example, rearranging to solve for x gives x = 2/(4 - 1/y), and then plugging this into the original equation will give you a quadratic equation to solve for y.

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