Derivative of function using evaluation theorem

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The discussion revolves around finding the derivative of a function defined by an integral using Part 1 of the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus. The specific function involves an integral from 0 to tan(x) of the expression involving t and its square root.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the application of the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus and the necessity of using the chain rule due to the upper limit being a function of x (tan(x)). Some express confusion about the differentiation process and the role of the chain rule in this context.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of the correct approach to differentiate the integral. Some participants suggest expressing the integral in terms of an antiderivative and then differentiating, while others question how to apply the chain rule effectively. The discussion reflects a mix of attempts and clarifications without reaching a consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the lecturer has not yet covered the chain rule, leading to questions about alternative methods. There is also mention of the specific limits of integration, which complicate the differentiation process.

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Homework Statement



Use Part 1 of the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus to find the derivative of the function:

y = ∫ 0 to tanx ( ( t + (t)^1/2 )^1/2

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I got my final answer to be:

y' = ( ( tanx + (tanx)^1/2 )^1/2

but the correct answer was:

y' = ( ( tanx + (tanx)^1/2 )^(1/2) * (secx)^2
 
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Hint: Chain rule.
 
My lecturer hasnt said anything about chain rule yet. Is there another normal way to do it? If not, could you please explain how to use the chain rule with it?
 
Let F(t) is an antiderivative of [tex]\sqrt{t+\sqrt{t}}[/tex]. Express

[tex]y=\int_0^{\tan x} \sqrt{t+\sqrt{t}}\,dt[/tex]

in terms of F(t). Then differentiate it to find y'(x). When you take this derivative, you'll need to use the chain rule.
 
But if you differentiate that integral you will get [tex] \sqrt{t+\sqrt{t}}[/tex] before subing in 0 and tanx, I am not sure how you would do chain rule in reverse
 
TsAmE said:
But if you differentiate that integral you will get [tex] \sqrt{t+\sqrt{t}}[/tex] before subing in 0 and tanx, I am not sure how you would do chain rule in reverse
If this were your equation, you would be correct.
[tex]y=\int_0^x \sqrt{t+\sqrt{t}} dt[/tex]
For this equation
[tex]dy/dx = \sqrt{x+\sqrt{x}}[/tex]

The trouble is, your integral is not from 0 to x, but is instead from 0 to tan(x). The idea with the fundamental theorem of calculus is that
[tex]d/dx \int_a^x f(t) dt = f(x)[/tex]

What you have is
[tex]d/dx \int_a^{g(x)} f(t) dt = f(x)[/tex]

They're not the same, and you need to use the chain rule for your problem. Note that your problem is NOT about finding the antiderivative of your integrand, and then substituting in tan(x) and 0.
 
TsAmE said:
But if you differentiate that integral you will get [tex] \sqrt{t+\sqrt{t}}[/tex] before subing in 0 and tanx, I am not sure how you would do chain rule in reverse
The reason I suggested you write y(x) in terms of F(t) first and then differentiate it is to avoid the mistake you keep making. The fundamental theorem of calculus tells you

y(x) = F(tan x) - F(0)

Do you now see why you have to use the chain rule?
 

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