Derivative of operators/commutators

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The discussion revolves around proving a derivative involving operators and commutators in the context of quantum mechanics, specifically related to the expression for \( G(\lambda) = e^{\lambda A}e^{\lambda B} \). Participants are exploring the implications of taking the derivative with respect to \( \lambda \) and the identities associated with operator exponentials.

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  • Participants discuss taking the derivative of \( G \) and express confusion about how to apply the identity involving the commutator. There are questions about the assumptions regarding commutativity in the context of matrix multiplication and clarifications sought on notation related to commutators.

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The discussion is active, with participants attempting to clarify their understanding of the derivative and the associated identities. Some guidance has been offered regarding the notation of commutators, but there is still uncertainty about the application of these concepts in the problem.

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Participants mention reviewing for a test and reference a specific exercise from a textbook, indicating a structured learning environment. There is an acknowledgment of potential missing elements in their understanding of the problem.

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Homework Statement


Prove:

## \frac{dG}{d\lambda} = G \Big( A +B + \frac{\lambda}{1!} [A,B] +\frac{\lambda^2}{2!} [A,[A,B]]... \Big)##

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##G(\lambda) = e^{\lambda A}e^{\lambda B} ##

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried taking the derivative with respect to lambda:
## \frac{dG}{d\lambda} = Ae^{\lambda A}e^{\lambda B} +e^{\lambda A}e^{\lambda B}B##

## = AG + GB##

Doesn't really seem to help me.

I'm assuming from the answer that the identity needs to be used:

##e^{\lambda A}Be^{-\lambda A} = B + \frac{\lambda}{1!} [A,B] +\frac{\lambda^2}{2!} [A,[A,B]]...##

But not sure how to piece it all together.

I'm reviewing for a test, and I'm working through some exercises.
(This is exercise 3.16 in chapter 4 of Merzbacher if anyone wants to reference it)

I think I'm just missing something really simple...
 
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Ah, Okay

##dGdλ = AG+GB = G (A+B) = G (A + e^{A \lambda}Be^{-A \lambda})##

Then just use the identity.
 
d3nat said:
Ah, Okay

##dGdλ = AG+GB = G (A+B) = G (A + e^{A \lambda}Be^{-A \lambda})##

Then just use the identity.
Typo above. I think you mean dG/dλ. I see where you get AG + GB. Is it reasonable to assume commutivity of multiplication? I'm thinking in terms of matrix multiplication, which is not generally commutative.

In any case, how did you get from G (A + B), which I assume means G(λ) * (A + B), rather than "G of A + B", to what you show on the right side of the equation above?

Also, what do the notations [A, B] and [A, [A, B]] mean?
 
Mark44 said:
Typo above. I think you mean dG/dλ. I see where you get AG + GB. Is it reasonable to assume commutivity of multiplication? I'm thinking in terms of matrix multiplication, which is not generally commutative.

In any case, how did you get from G (A + B), which I assume means G(λ) * (A + B), rather than "G of A + B", to what you show on the right side of the equation above?

Also, what do the notations [A, B] and [A, [A, B]] mean?

I can do the notation question. That's pretty standard. [A,B] is commutator of A and B. [A,B]=AB-BA.
 
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