Derive the displacements movable pulleys.

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The discussion revolves around deriving the accelerations of two masses in a system involving movable pulleys. Participants are exploring the relationships between displacements and accelerations in this mechanical setup.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are attempting to reason through the displacement relationships caused by the movements of the masses and pulleys. There are discussions about how the movements of one mass affect the others and the resulting accelerations.

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Some participants are clarifying their understanding of the displacement relationships and how they lead to different acceleration ratios. There appears to be a productive exchange of ideas, with some participants confirming their reasoning and others questioning their assumptions.

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Participants are working under the constraints of deriving relationships based on the mechanics of the pulley system, and there is an emphasis on understanding the implications of movement rather than arriving at a final solution.

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Homework Statement


Obtain the accelerations of mass a and mass b.



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Once i derive the displacement relation constraint, then i just have to diff twice w.r.t time. This part is ok.


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I am trying to reason this way: suppose 2M moves up by x. Following the right string of 2M to pulley2 then to pulley 1 = This means pulley1 move down by x. Following the left string of 2M to pulley1 = this causes M to move down by x. So M moves by 2x. the acc of m must be 2a and acc of 2m is a. but the answer is m acc at 3a and 2m acc at a.
 

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The right piece of the left string gets shorter by 2x when the block B rises by x, as the left pulley descends by x. So the left block moves down by 2x with respect to the left pulley.

ehild
 
Ok, I'm getting it. The right piece of left string gets shorter by 2x meaning that the left piece of the right string must increase by 2x thus left block moves 2x w.r.t left pulley. Since left pulley is moving at dist x w.r.t right pulley. left block is moving 3x wrt right pulley. this explains the 3:1 acc ratio. Am I right.
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It is right now.

ehild
 

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