Deriving an expression for the energy required to separate charges

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The discussion centers on deriving the expression for the energy required to separate two point charges, utilizing the equation for electric potential energy. The participant correctly applies the work-energy principle, integrating the force derived from Coulomb's law, resulting in the equation for electric potential energy: \( U(a) = k \frac{q_1 q_2}{a} \). The conclusion emphasizes that the sign of the result indicates correctness, with a positive value confirming the derivation's accuracy. Additionally, the conversation hints at complexities in advanced estimations beyond the basic problem.

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Homework Statement


Hi guys, would just too make sure my derivation and insight to why is correct.
Question: a) only

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$$dU=-wd_{ext}$$
$$dU=-F_{ext} \cdot dx$$
Now as the ##F_{ext}## is in the same direction and the direction vector { have not figured how to put direction vector in} then the equation becomes ##dU=-Fdx## this assume the direction is along the x-axis
So now if I intergrate both sides ##\int_{U(a)}^{U\infty}dU=-\int_{a}^{\infty}Fdx##

Subbing in a factoring columbs force law I get:

$$U(\infty)-U(a)=-kq_1q_2[-\frac{1}{x}]_a^\infty$$

Now U infity is zero because there is no force acting on it anymore and so I am left with##-U(a)## on the LHS on the RHS I am left with ##-kq_1q_2\frac{1}{a}##
thus the two negative cancel and I am left with the electric poteinal energy. Is this correct?
 
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If your answer has a positive sign, it is correct.Beyond the scope of your homework problem: (c) has a very interesting story. The naive way to improve the estimate leads to something that is not well-defined in mathematics, and you have to be careful how to do it properly to get the correct result.
 

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