Deriving differential equations for free rotation

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The discussion revolves around deriving differential equations governing the rotation of a body without external moments acting about its center of mass. Participants explore the formulation of these equations, particularly focusing on the Euler equations and their implications in a dynamic system.

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  • One participant presents a system of nonlinear differential equations based on the Euler equations for a rotating body, expressing concern about how to derive the specific equations requested.
  • Another participant suggests that the solution to the differential equations can be approached by treating the system as a symmetric top, leading to a simpler set of linear equations under certain conditions.
  • A third participant clarifies that they are not seeking the solution but rather a specific set of differential equations, expressing frustration that their derived equations are not the nonlinear ones originally requested.
  • One participant questions the clarity of the original request and reiterates that the Euler equations are indeed nonlinear, noting that they only simplify to linear equations in symmetric cases.

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Participants express differing views on the nature of the equations being derived, with some asserting the equations are nonlinear while others suggest they can be simplified under specific conditions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact form of the equations requested.

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There is a lack of consensus on the specific requirements for the differential equations, and the discussion highlights the complexity of deriving them in various contexts, particularly in relation to symmetry and linearization.

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I was asked to formulate the equations governing the rotation of a body moving without any external moments acting about its centre of mass in terms of a coupled system of first order, nonlinear differential equations. I decided to go with the Euler equations, and I ended up with this:

\begin{equation} \label{symdif}
\begin{array}{l l l}
\dot{\omega}_x=\frac{I_{yy}-I_{zz}}{I_{xx}}\omega _y\omega _z\\
\dot{\omega}_y=\frac{I_{zz}-I_{xx}}{I_{yy}}\omega _z\omega _x\\
\dot{\omega}_z=\frac{I_{xx}-I_{yy}}{I_{zz}}\omega _x\omega _y
\end{array}
\end{equation}

\begin{equation}
(I_{xx}=I_{yy}<I_{zz})
\end{equation}

This indicates that $$\omega_z=constant$$which makes it possible to solve the system of differential equations, but I wonder how one would end up with the differential equations explicitly asked for.
 
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I guess you look for the solution of the differential equation. Since \omega_z=\text{const} we can indeed solve the remaining system of two coupled linear differential equations. To make it a bit less tedious to write we set
\Omega=\frac{I_{zz}-I_{xx}}{I_{yy}} \omega_z.
Since for a symmetric top I_{xx}=I_{yy} the system reads
\dot{\omega}_x=-\Omega \omega_y, \quad \dot{\omega}_y=\Omega \omega_x.
To solve this equation, you can either use matrix-exponential functions or, much simpler in this case, the trick to introduce a complex variable
u=\omega_x+\mathrm{i} \omega_y.
Then from the equations of motion you get
\dot{u}=\Omega (-\omega_y+\mathrm{i} \omega_x)=\mathrm{i} \Omega (\omega_x+\mathrm{i} \omega_y)=\mathrm{i} \Omega u.
The general solution is immediately given by
u(x)=u_0 \exp(\mathrm{i} \Omega t)
with u_0 integration constants fixed by the initial conditions \omega_x(0)=\omega_{x0}, \omega_y(0)=\omega_{y0}. To get the angular velocities you only have to take real and imaginary part of our solution with
u_0=\omega_{x0}+\mathrm{i} \omega_{y0}
leading to
\omega_x(t)=\omega_{x0} \cos(\Omega t)-\omega_{y0} \sin(\Omega t),
\omega_y(t)=\omega_{y0} \cos(\Omega t)+\omega_{x0} \sin(\Omega t).
That tells you that the angular velocity rotates around the z axis sweeping out the polhode cone (seen from the reference frame fixed with the spinning body, where the above Euler equations hold).

Seen from the inertial frame, of course the total angular momentum is conserved, defining a fixed axis, around which both the angular velocity (sweeping out the herpole cone) and the symmetry axis of the body (sweeping out the nutation cone) rotate.
 
Hey

No, I am unfortunately not looking for the answer to the equations.

I am asked to come up with a specific set of differential equations to later apply to a dynamic system, where the latter is not of any interest for the moment. However, the equations I derived are not nonlinear, and in that sense better than the equations asked for. My question was about what equations the latter would be and being a common subject in mechanics I was hoping that someone had a quick answer lying around, since deriving them would just be a waste of effort forasmuch as I already have calculated the angular velocity.
 
I don't understand what you have to do. What is the precise question asked?

The Euler equations are, of course non-linear first-order differential equations. Only for the symmetric case they effectively simplify to the linear one as discussed.
 

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