Deriving pressure, density and temperature profile of atmosphere

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The discussion focuses on deriving the pressure, density, and temperature profiles of an adiabatically stratified plane-parallel atmosphere under constant gravitational acceleration. The parameters provided include a mean molecular weight of \(\mu = 14u\), gravitational acceleration \(g = 9.81 \, \text{m/s}^2\), altitude \(z = 8500 \, \text{m}\), and a sea-level temperature of \(T = 300 \, \text{K}\). Participants emphasize the importance of using the ideal gas law and the barometric formula, while addressing the challenge of circular dependencies between temperature and pressure. The concept of adiabatic stratification is clarified as maintaining a constant product of pressure and volume raised to the power of \(\gamma\) as altitude changes.

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Homework Statement


Derive the pressure, density and temperature profiles of an adiabatically stratified plane-parallel atmosphere under constant gravitational acceleration g. Assume that the atmosphere consists of an ideal gas of mean molecular weight \mu.

Given \mu=14u, g = 9.81m/s^2, z = 8500m, T (@sea level) = 300K, calculate temperature and pressure at the summit.

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Edit: removed the ideal gas law and barometric formula because I think I was on the wrong track with them...

The Attempt at a Solution


I have been able to derive the barometric formula (which doubles as a pressure and density profile) from the ideal gas law, but am stuck in a bit of a circular problem: I need the temperature at the top of the summit to get the pressure, and vice versa. I don't know how to proceed, or maybe I've taken the wrong approach.

Any help would be appreciated!
 
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What does "adiabatically stratified" mean? Is it that pVγ= const. ?
 
kuruman said:
What does "adiabatically stratified" mean?

I interpreted it to mean that the atmosphere can be modeled as planes of thickness dz that are adiabatic.
 
voxel said:
I interpreted it to mean that the atmosphere can be modeled as planes of thickness dz that are adiabatic.
They "are adiabatic" in what way? Could it be that as z changes, the product pVγ remains constant? If so you have three equations: barometric, ideal gas and adiabatic condition and three thermodynamic variables. You can eliminate any two variables and find the other in terms of z.
 
I think you're right in that as z changes, the product PV^\gamma = const.

However, I'm not seeing how I can eliminate P and V to get T(z)..

edit: clarification: I don't see how I can eliminate two of the thermodynamic variables without introducing an unknown constant.
 
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Use the ideal gas law to eliminate the volume in the adiabatic condition to find an expression that says (Some power of p)*(some other power of T) = constant. Find the value of the constant from the initial conditions. Solve for the pressure and replace the expression you get for p in the barometric equation. This will give you an equation with T and z only.
 

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