Deriving the Derivative of ln(x^2+2)^(1/2)

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The discussion revolves around finding the derivative of the function \( y = \ln(\sqrt{x^2 + 2}) \). Participants are exploring the application of logarithmic properties and differentiation rules in the context of calculus.

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  • Participants discuss changing the expression using logarithmic identities and consider the implications of the chain rule. There are attempts to clarify the use of the product rule and the application of substitutions.

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The conversation includes various interpretations of how to approach the derivative, with some participants suggesting methods like u-substitution and others questioning the application of the product rule. There is no explicit consensus on the correct approach, but several productive directions have been proposed.

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Some participants express uncertainty about the rules of differentiation and the correct application of logarithmic identities, indicating potential gaps in understanding or missing information.

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[tex]y = ln[\sqrt(x^2+2)][/tex]

I changed it to [tex]y = ln[(x^2+2)^{1/2}][/tex]

I know the derivative of [tex]ln = \frac {1}{x}[/tex]

I'm not sure how to proceed.
 
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set the argument of the natural log equal to u. Take derivative of u!
 
If I knew how to take the derivative I wouldn't have asked!

The way it looks to me I get:

[tex]\frac {1}{(x^2 + 2)^{1/2}} * \frac{1}{2}(x^2 + 2)^{-1/2}[/tex]

I'm not sure this is right though
 
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you have to usea certain method, perhaps a certain rule that you have been studying...
 
So I'm guessing the rule in the topic is wrong then?
 
what I mean is you need to do the chain rule one more time. this is an example of doing multiple chain rules in 1 problem.
 
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[tex]\frac {1}{(x^2 + 2)^{1/2}} * \frac{-1}{4}(x^2 + 2)^{-1.5} (2x)[/tex]
 
May I make a suggestion to ease the diifficulty? Here's ahint

[tex]ln(a^b) = bln(a)[/tex]

That should deal with the square root. Then use a u substitution on the x^2 + 2 inside. That may simplify the problem a bit.

Edit: Oops, mistyped that logarithm...
 
So I can change it to this:

[tex]y = \frac {1}{2}ln(x^2+2)[/tex]

Then Use the Product Rule Instead?

If so, I get:

[tex]y' = 1x \frac {1x}{x^2 +2}[/tex]
 
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Product rule? What product? If you mean the "2" times "ln...", since the derivative of a constant, normally you don't use the product rule in a situation like that: (2f(x))'= 2f'(x). But, you did get the correct answer!
(I might be inclined not to write the 1s.)
 

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