Deriving the Formula for Average Velocity with Constant Acceleration

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The discussion revolves around deriving the formula for average velocity in the context of constant acceleration. Participants are exploring the relationship between initial and final velocities and how they relate to average velocity.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are questioning the definition of average velocity and its derivation. There are attempts to relate average velocity to distances traveled under constant acceleration and constant velocity. Some participants suggest using a velocity-time graph to visualize the relationship.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants raising questions and attempting to clarify concepts. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of a v/t graph to aid understanding, although there is no explicit consensus on the derivation process itself.

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There is a mention of a potential misunderstanding regarding the distinction between constant acceleration and constant velocity in the context of the problem. Participants are also referencing textbook definitions without providing derivations.

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i was just wondering how do you prove that

average velocity = (initial velocity + final velocity) / 2

when the acceleration is constant.

my book simply tells me the formula and how to use it but doesn't say how it got this formula in the first place.
 
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How would you define average velocity?
I'll help you get started:
What distance will you travel, starting at the initial velocity, under constant acceleration, over a time of [tex]\Delta t[/tex]
What distance will you travel, constantly at the average velocity as defined in your post, over a time of [tex]\Delta t[/tex] ?
 
RoyalCat said:
How would you define average velocity?
I'll help you get started:
What distance will you travel, starting at the initial velocity, under constant acceleration, over a time of [tex]\Delta t[/tex]
What distance will you travel, constantly at the average velocity as defined in your post, over a time of [tex]\Delta t[/tex] ?

for the first question, i would travel (vi)([tex]\Delta t[/tex])
for the second question, i would travel (average velocity)([tex]\Delta t[/tex])

is this right?
 
demonelite123 said:
for the first question, i would travel (vi)([tex]\Delta t[/tex])
for the second question, i would travel (average velocity)([tex]\Delta t[/tex])

is this right?
No. Question one entails a constant acceleration starting with an initial velocity vi, and not a constant velocity.
 
Fightfish said:
No. Question one entails a constant acceleration starting with an initial velocity vi, and not a constant velocity.

could you please show me how to derive the formula average velocity = (vf - vi) / 2 when acceleration is constant?
 
demonelite123 said:
i was just wondering how do you prove that

average velocity = (initial velocity + final velocity) / 2

when the acceleration is constant.

my book simply tells me the formula and how to use it but doesn't say how it got this formula in the first place.

It may help your understanding if you sketch a v/t graph.Find the area underneath the graph to get the distance traveled and use, average velocity = distance/ time
 
Dadface said:
It may help your understanding if you sketch a v/t graph.Find the area underneath the graph to get the distance traveled and use, average velocity = distance/ time

thanks! i got it now!
 

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