Deriving the head-on collision equation in terms of v2' and v1'

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The discussion revolves around deriving equations related to head-on collisions in physics, specifically focusing on the momentum equation and the relationships between the velocities before and after the collision.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are attempting to understand how to manipulate the momentum equation and the relationship between the velocities to derive the final expressions for v2' and v1'. There is discussion about substituting one equation into another and eliminating variables.

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Some participants are providing guidance on how to approach the problem by suggesting substitutions and questioning the steps taken. There is an acknowledgment of confusion regarding which equations to use and how to proceed with the derivation.

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There is mention of a lack of clarity in the original textbook regarding the derivation of the equations, which may contribute to the participants' confusion. Some participants express feelings of inadequacy in their understanding, indicating a need for further clarification.

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[SOLVED] Deriving the head-on collision equation in terms of v2' and v1'

I think I'm having an algebra issue here, but how is the momentum equation (where v2=0):

m1(v1-v1')=m2v2'

combined with v1+v1'=v2'

to give:

v2' = v1 [ 2m1/(m1+m2)]

and

v1' = v1 [(m1-m2)/(m1+m2)]


I'm realizing this must be an elementary question since my book doesn't actually show how they derive those equations, but I'm not seeing it.

Help someone?
 
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Plug v2'=v1+v1' into the first equation, and then solve for v1'.
 
So... you have two equations... and you are trying to eliminate one of the variables?
 
Ok, I can find v1', but I'm confused on which equation to plug in where to get v2'.
 
They gave you v2' in terms of v1 and v1', did they not?
 
louise82 said:
Ok, I can find v1', but I'm confused on which equation to plug in where to get v2'.
There aren't very many options... why not try them all?
 
Ok, feel dumb now. But since I'm exposed I may as well ask all my other dumb questions. Thanks for the help. :)
 
louise82 said:
Ok, feel dumb now. But since I'm exposed I may as well ask all my other dumb questions. Thanks for the help. :)

Hey louise, you got it, so you should feel smart. :approve:
 

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