Description of Adiabatic Expansion

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The discussion focuses on the derivation of adiabatic expansion equations for an ideal gas, specifically the relationship between the expressions \( TV^{\gamma - 1} = \text{constant} \) and \( pV^{\gamma} = \text{constant} \). Participants clarify that substituting \( T \) with \( \frac{PV}{nR} \) allows for the transition between the two equations, with the new constant incorporating \( nR \). The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding these derivations and suggests resources like Hyperphysics for further study.

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I've seen the derivation for the adiabatic expansion of an ideal gas which gives the result ## TV^{\gamma - 1} = constant ## which I understand. I have also seen the a similar result, ## pV^{\gamma} = constant ##. But I can't see how to get from the first expression to the second. Any ideas?
 
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If you put ##\frac{PV}{nR}## in place of ##T## in the first equation, doesn't it become the second one, assuming that the number of moles ##n## remains constant in the expansion?
 
From doing that you get ## pV^{\gamma} = R(constant) ##. So you just define a new constant on the RHS that contains ## R ##?
 
Isn't this a straightforward bit of Text Book derivation? Do you not have access to one?
 
Yes, it's a different constant then, the original one multiplied by ##nR##.
 
If you don't have a textbook, try the Hyperphysics website. They have a fair amount of stuff on the gas laws.
 
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sophiecentaur said:
Isn't this a straightforward bit of Text Book derivation? Do you not have access to one?
You are probably right, however I don't have a textbook on thermodynamics. I thought of substituting ## \frac{pV}{nR} ## but didn't see how to remove ## nR ## from the final expression. Since they're constant, I guess it's obvious the new constant contains these terms.
 
sophiecentaur said:
If you don't have a textbook, try the Hyperphysics website. They have a fair amount of stuff on the gas laws.
Thanks, I'll check it out :thumbup:.
 
I_laff said:
Thanks, I'll check it out :thumbup:.
There are other on-line sources which are an alternative to a textbook but Hyperphysics is fairly user friendly.
 
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