Designing a Discus Rotator: Motor Solutions

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The discussion centers on designing a motorized system to rotate a 2kg discus with a diameter of 9 inches for data collection purposes. Participants suggest using a ceiling fan motor with a speed controller or repurposing an old vinyl record turntable for its variable speed capabilities. Safety concerns are raised regarding the high rotational speeds, estimated at around 10 revolutions per second (approximately 62 rad/s), which could pose risks. The project aims to integrate an accelerometer and microcontroller to analyze the discus's performance without actual throwing.

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Hey guys looking to design something that will rotate a 2kg discus in place. I attached a simple schematic of what it will look like. I also don't know what kind of motor to use to rotate the shaft. I went to Fry's but their motors looked to weak to power it. Anyone know a site I can buy a motor that can get the job done for me?
 

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dt1156 said:
Hey guys looking to design something that will rotate a 2kg discus in place. I attached a simple schematic of what it will look like. I also don't know what kind of motor to use to rotate the shaft. I went to Fry's but their motors looked to weak to power it. Anyone know a site I can buy a motor that can get the job done for me?

Hi dt1156! http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5725/red5e5etimes5e5e45e5e25.gif

One major omission in your specifications: the speed range over which you wish to spin it. Also, would be worth pointing out your discus's diameter.

Are you planning mains operation, or a low voltage? My first thought is a ceiling fan motor and speed controller, but take great care, because a smooth discus is going to offer far less resistance than a big fan, so the discus will have a much faster top speed. This could be dangerous.

To what purpose will you put this spinning disc?
 
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A fan is a good idea. My first thought was to hit a surplus store or scrapyard and grab an old vinyl record turntable. You already have 2 or maybe 3 mechanically selectable speeds, with the option of adding an electronic controller. It has the advantage of needing only a restraint such as a couple of straps or some Velcro as opposed to an entire mounting system.
 
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Hi dt1156! http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5725/red5e5etimes5e5e45e5e25.gif

One major omission in your specifications: the speed range over which you wish to spin it. Also, would be worth pointing out your discus's diameter.

Are you planning mains operation, or a low voltage? My first thought is a ceiling fan motor and speed controller, but take great care, because a smooth discus is going to offer far less resistance than a big fan, so the discus will have a much faster top speed. This could be dangerous.

To what purpose will you put this spinning disc?
The discus's diameter is 9in, 5/16" screw size and weights 2kg and round shape. I've included a picture of a discus that looks very similar to mine. The point of this design is to create a test to gather data from the discus while it is in rotation without having anyone actually throw it. This is a group project where my group will be placing an acceleramator inside the discus and a programming a microcontroller to convert the acceleration readings into the distance the discus traveled. I'm just designing this rotational test part.
 

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... One major omission in your specifications: the speed range over which you wish to spin it. http://physicsforums.bernhardtmediall.netdna-cdn.com/images/icons/icon6.gif
 
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Not much faster than the average rotational speed of a discus thrown by a olympic athelte. I couldn't find any measurements of a discus thrown by olympians so I asked my group and someone took a guess at around 10 revolutions per sec which is around 62 rad/s.
 

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