Determine state of particle: Quantum Mechanics (Phase)

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Homework Statement


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This is the Solution. I am having trouble understanding parts of it.

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The first part I don't get is why the e^i... goes with the -z. Did my professor just choose one at random, or is there a specific reason?

The second part I am not understanding is how he got that |<+x|>|^2 = 1/2...
I tried squaring the expression for <+x| > but I am not coming up with that value.
 

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grandpa2390 said:
The first part I don't get is why the e^i... goes with the -z. Did my professor just choose one at random, or is there a specific reason?
It is an arbitrary choice. A state is determined only up to an arbitrary overall phase factor. So, the most you can expect to do is determine the relative phase between the up and down z states in ##|\psi \rangle##. You could just as well put the relative phase factor ##e^{i \delta}## with the ##|+z \rangle## ket.

The second part I am not understanding is how he got that |<+x|>|^2 = 1/2
It has to do with the information given about the probability for finding the particle in the ##|+x \rangle## state.
 
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TSny said:
It has to do with the information given about the probability for finding the particle in the ##|+x \rangle## state.

Could you elaborate?

How did he get to

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TSny said:
If z is a complex number, then |z|2 = z*z.

you are not making any sense. As I said, I did square the expression in the previous step. but I did not get that result.
 
TSny said:
If z is a complex number, then |z|2 = z*z.

are you say to multiply it by the complex conjugate?
 
grandpa2390 said:
are you say to multiply it by the complex conjugate?
Yes. Maybe it will be clearer using LaTeX:
$$
|z|^2 = z^* z
$$

(Edit: That's not necessarily clearer. I understand better why many mathematicians prefer the notation ##\bar{z}## to ##z^*##.)
 
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DrClaude said:
Yes. Maybe it will be clearer using LaTeX:
$$
|z|^2 = z^* z
$$

(Edit: That's not necessarily clearer. I understand better why many mathematicians prefer the notation ##\bar{z}## to ##z^*##.)
Thanks.
Lol, Written by hand, it makes sense. But on the computer, I am so used to seeing that symbol used for regular multiplication.

Thank you both.
 
OK, good. Sorry for the confusion regarding the complex conjugate notation.
Moreover, when I first read the following
grandpa2390 said:
The second part I am not understanding is how he got that |<+x|>|^2 = 1/2...
I tried squaring the expression for <+x| > but I am not coming up with that value.
I didn't notice the three dots ... after the 1/2. So, I thought you were asking why ##|\langle +x|\psi \rangle|^2= 1/2## . Thus, my response in post #2.
Oh well, glad it all got sorted out.
 
TSny said:
OK, good. Sorry for the confusion regarding the complex conjugate notation.
Moreover, when I first read the following

I didn't notice the three dots ... after the 1/2. So, I thought you were asking why ##|\langle +x|\psi \rangle|^2= 1/2## . Thus, my response in post #2.
Oh well, glad it all got sorted out.

I suspected that. so I posted the whole thing the second time (as I should have done the first time ;)

thanks