1. Not finding help here? Sign up for a free 30min tutor trial with Chegg Tutors
    Dismiss Notice
Dismiss Notice
Join Physics Forums Today!
The friendliest, high quality science and math community on the planet! Everyone who loves science is here!

Determine the coefficient of performance of this cycle

  1. May 6, 2016 #1
    1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
    In an ideal refrigeration cycle, the temperature of the condensing vapour is 40oC and the temperature during evaporation is -20oC. Determine the coefficient of performance of this cycle for the working fluids; R12 and ammonia.

    2. Relevant equations
    C.O.Pc = TL/(TH-TL)

    3. The attempt at a solution
    C.O.Pc= ((-20+273)/(40--20))
    = 4.2
    I don't understand how the working fluid would affect the results of the C.O.Pc (where c stands for carnot efficiency)
     
  2. jcsd
  3. May 7, 2016 #2

    jim hardy

    User Avatar
    Science Advisor
    Gold Member
    2016 Award

    Last edited by a moderator: May 7, 2017
  4. May 7, 2016 #3
    Thanks you for the helpful material you attached.
    From the second attachment I concluded that COPR=(h1-h4)/(h2-h1) so I was able to get h1 from the tables at -20οC. for R12 h1=178.73 and similarly I got h2=74.59. However,I don't know the temperature at 3 or 4 so I can't get h4. What should I do?
     
  5. May 7, 2016 #4

    SteamKing

    User Avatar
    Staff Emeritus
    Science Advisor
    Homework Helper

    The temperature at 4 is going to be the same TL as in the ideal Carnot cycle.

    Do like Jim suggests, and look at the worked example he attached in Post #2.
     
  6. May 7, 2016 #5

    jim hardy

    User Avatar
    Science Advisor
    Gold Member
    2016 Award

    1. Go back to original question
    Ideal cycle, eh ?
    That's what is represented in the T-S diagram above,
    Think about it
    working fluid enters evaporator as liquid-vapor mix at saturation pressure and leaves as saturated vapor at same pressure, as stated by phrase "4-1 constant pressure heat addition" and as shown by proximity to saturation line on the T-S diagram ...
    that sounds to me like constant temperature
    What do you think from looking at the chart ?

    in their ideal cycle chart they don't show any superheat so i'd assume saturation temperature on both ends of the evaporator, just different quality.
    Isn't that what is the "x" is here , fraction of vapor ?
    upload_2016-5-7_17-35-23.png

    2. so i think if you know t at 1 you know t at 4. What do you think ?

    It is helpful to remember refrigerators work by heat of vaporization
    and imagine yourself inside a tiny submarine riding along through the pipes
    I think that'll help you visualize .

    3. so - what goes on in the condenser ? Heat of vaporization is rejected....
    First it cools the superheated compressor discharge , point 2 to saturation line,
    then it rejects heat of vaporization at constant pressure again as stated, that's saturation line to other side of saturation curve point 3. Between the two sides of the saturation line it is just giving up heat of vaporization, and that has to be at saturation temperature... I think you probably know T at 3.....

    4. Print yourself several copies of that T-S chart and think your way around the circuit,
    writing on each segment your own words about what is going on. When you get the words boiled down to a concise summary and it "feels right" you will feel an upwelling sense of accomplishment. Probably you'll improve on it after a night's sleep.


    Just a couple days ago i charged a friend's car airconditioner.
    When they're low on freon they can't liquefy in the condenser
    so no liquid enters the evaporator
    meaning there can't be much absorbtion of heat in the evaporator because there's no vaporization going on in there anymore
    and the air comes out of the dashboard vents warm. Point 1 is in superheat.
    It is enlightening to feel the air get cooler as the compressor's suction pressure comes up , which is counterintuitive ...
    but what's happening is it's coming out of superheat and is approaching saturation pressure for the cabin air temperature.

    In a real airconditioner they want a small amount of superheat at evaporator outlet to assure the compressor doesn't ingest incompressible liquid
    and they want a small amount of subcooling at condenser outlet to assure you've given up all the heat of vaporization
    but those practicalities aren't shown on the ideal diagram.

    We learn more by doing than by reading about doing
    $49 buys a set of inexpensive refrigeration gages for your car
    and summer is just around the corner...
    You'll quickly observe that the compressor discharge line is the hottest point in the system
    and you'll get a visceral "feel" for the power of evaporation .
    Not to mention you'll gain sudden popularity....


    old jim
     
    Last edited: May 7, 2016
Know someone interested in this topic? Share this thread via Reddit, Google+, Twitter, or Facebook

Have something to add?
Draft saved Draft deleted