Determining Convergence of Series Using Comparison and Ratio Tests

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The discussion revolves around determining the convergence or divergence of the series \(\sum_{n=1}^\infty\frac{1}{(3^n)(\sqrt{n})}\). Participants are exploring various convergence tests, including the Comparison Test and the Ratio Test, to analyze the series' behavior.

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  • Participants discuss the application of the p-test and the Comparison Test, questioning the validity of reasoning that leads to conclusions about convergence based on comparisons with divergent series.

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Some participants are providing guidance on the misapplication of the Comparison Test and are exploring the implications of comparing terms from the series. There is an ongoing examination of the reasoning behind the conclusions drawn, with no explicit consensus reached.

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There is mention of specific conditions for convergence based on the p-test, as well as the need for careful application of comparison principles. The original poster's reasoning is challenged, highlighting the complexity of the convergence tests being discussed.

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Homework Statement


Does the series
<br /> \Big( \sum_{n=1}^\infty\frac{1}{(3^n)*(sqrtn)} \Big)<br />
Converge or Diverge? By what test?

Homework Equations


1/n^p
If p<1 or p=1, the series diverges.
If p>1, the series converges.

If bn > an and bn converges, then an also converges.

The Attempt at a Solution


I use 1/(sqrtn) since it is bigger than 1/((3^n)(sqrtn)).
Since sqrtn is n^1/2 I use the p test.
Since 1/2<1, the series 1/sqrtn diverges and so does the original.
This is wrong

The answer uses 1/3^n as the comparison and it just says that it converges with no explanation.
Also, the ratio test was used and it converged.

Why doesn't my reasoning work?
 
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Al3x L3g3nd said:
Why doesn't my reasoning work?
You showed that a series with larger terms, and therefore less inclined to converge, doesn't converge. What can you deduce from that?
 
Al3x L3g3nd said:
I use 1/(sqrtn) since it is bigger than 1/((3^n)(sqrtn)).
Since sqrtn is n^1/2 I use the p test.
Since 1/2<1, the series 1/sqrtn diverges and so does the original.

You are misapplying the Comparison Test. It is correct to state that $$\frac{1}{3^n \sqrt{n}} < \frac{1}{\sqrt{n}},$$ however while the the sum of the RHS diverges (by p test), you cannot conclude anything about the convergence/divergence of LHS. As a counterexample to your line of reasoning , see for example the following:
$$n^2 > n\,\,\text{for}\,\,n > 1 \Rightarrow \frac{1}{n^2} < \frac{1}{n}.$$ The infinite sum of RHS diverges (by p test) while the LHS converges (by p test).
 
Hi

$$ \sum_{n=1}^\infty\frac{1}{3^n\cdot\sqrt{n}} < \sum_{n=1}^\infty\frac{1}{3^n}=\frac{1}{2} $$
 
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