Determining Motion from a Derivative

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The discussion focuses on analyzing the motion of a particle described by the position function r(t) and its derivative r'(t), which is defined as the cross product of a constant vector c and r(t). It is established that r'(t) is perpendicular to both c and r(t), indicating that the particle's motion lies on a plane normal to c. The conversation suggests using Newton's method for iterative approximation of the position function, though it notes that this can lead to complex calculations. Participants recommend simplifying the analysis by choosing a coordinate system where vector c aligns with the z-axis, which can clarify the expression for the cross product. Overall, the discussion emphasizes understanding the geometric implications of the motion described by the derivative.
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Homework Statement


Given position function r(t) and r'(t) = c X r(t), where c is some constant vector, describe the path of the particle. In other words, describe r(t).

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The Attempt at a Solution

a) r'(t) points in the direction of motion. If we can understand how r'(t) changes direction, we can understand how r(t) moves.
b) r'(t) is the cross product of c and r(t). Therefore, the function is perpendicular to both c and r(t).
c) If r'(t) is perpendicular to c, r'(t) lies on a plane that c is normal to.
d) ---- No other leads
 
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Consider iterating a few times with Newton's method to see what happens.
For starters, assume that C = Identity and evaluate the cross product.
 
what does C = identity mean, sorry? a constant function?

if c is given by <C1,C2,C3> and I cross that by r(t) <R1,R2,R3>, I get a cross product.:
<C2(R3) - C3(R2), C1(R3) - C3(R1), C1(R2) - C2(R1)>

I then multiply that cross product by time interval t. This gives the position function's next approximate position.

$<t[C2(R3) - C3(R2)], t[C1(R3) - C3(R1)], t[C1(R2) - C2(R1)]t>

Subsequent iterations become very messy. Are you sure about this? No conceptual way of understanding the problem?
 
Dot both sides with r(t) and solve. What does this tell you about |r(t)|?
 
You might find it helpful to choose a coordinate system to make the analysis easier. Orient the coordinate system so that ##\vec{c}## points along the z-axis. That'll give you a much simpler expression for ##\vec{c}\times\vec{r}##.
 
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