Determining speed of an oscillating object

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The discussion revolves around determining the speed of a branch oscillating in simple harmonic motion (SHM) with given parameters such as amplitude and maximum speed. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the calculations needed to find the speed at a specific position.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore various methods to calculate the speed, including attempts to apply energy conservation principles and factorization. Some question the concept of angular frequency, which is unfamiliar to one participant.

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Multiple participants have shared their calculations, arriving at the same intermediate result. There is recognition of the complexity of the problem, with some suggesting that the scenario may extend beyond simple harmonic motion. The discussion is ongoing, with no consensus on the final answer yet.

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One participant notes that their understanding is limited to the material covered in their course, which may not include advanced concepts related to the motion of the branch.

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Homework Statement



(Forgive me if I use certain terms wrong; I'm learning all of this in French)

A branch at the top of a tree is swinging back and forth with a simple harmonic motion. Its amplitude is 0.80m. Its maximum speed at the point of equilibrium is 1.5m/s. What is the speed of the branch at 0.60m?

The answer according to the back of the book is 0.75m/s but I need to know how to get there.

Homework Equations



Em = Em'
Ep + Ec = Ep' + Ec'
Ep = kx2/2
Ec = mv2/2

The Attempt at a Solution



I've made many attempts at this, all completely wrong. I always end up trying to factorize (my teacher told us that the answer involves factorizing) but it goes absolutely haywire. It would take too long to type out even one attempt.

Em = Em'
Epmax = Ecmax
kxmax2/2 = mvmax2/2 (the 1/2 cancels for each formula)
vmax/xmax = √k/m (which should be constant)
(1,5m/s)2/(0.80m)2 = √k/m
1.875(not sure what unit to put here) = √k/m ∴ k/m = 3.516

kx2 + mv2 = mvmax2 (again the 1/2 cancels)
mvmax2 - mv2 = kx2
m(vmax2 - v2) = kx2
vmax2 - v2 = kx2/m
k/m = (vmax2 - v2)/x2

If the k/m stays constant, which I believe it should, it should be an easy substitution to find the v I'm looking for.

After manipulating the formula I got, I'm left with

v = √-(k/m - vmax2/x2)(x2)

After substituting, I get 0.99m/s.
 
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Start by finding out the angular frequency. :wink:

You are given maximum velocity and amplitude, can you find the angular frequency?
 
I don't know what angular frequency is :S We never learned anything like that. (Physics 20)
 
After substituting, I get 0.99m/s.
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I get the same answer

v=VmaxSin(ArcCos(6/8))
V=1.5 X sin(41.41°)
v=0.99 m/s
 
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azizlwl said:
I get the same answer

v=VmaxSin(ArcCos(6/8))
V=1.5 X sin(41.41°)
v=0.99 m/s
Nope, I definitely haven't learned what you just did.

If it helps, I think I'm supposed to assume it's moving in a straight line like a spring oscillating back and forth. The branch should be moving in a partial circular path, but those calculations would be more advanced than what I've been taught.
 
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Ok it's more complicated than SHM. For SHM our answer is correct.
 
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