The ball's maximum speed relative to the vehicle?

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The problem involves a 3.50-kg ball being pulled by a spring in a NASA test vehicle that accelerates at 5.00 m/s². The vehicle reaches a speed of 45.0 m/s before the engines turn off, and the discussion centers on determining the ball's maximum speed relative to the vehicle.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of angular frequency (ω) and its application in determining speed. There are questions about the value of amplitude (A) and how it is derived. Some participants express confusion regarding the conditions for setting displacement (x) to zero to find maximum speed.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with each other's calculations and reasoning, questioning assumptions about the values used in their equations. There is a productive exchange regarding the relationship between potential energy and kinetic energy in the context of the spring system.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of potential round-off errors in calculations and the need to clarify when to set displacement to zero, indicating some uncertainty in the problem setup and assumptions about energy states.

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Homework Statement


Inside a NASA test vehicle, a 3.50-kg ball is pulled along by a horizontal ideal spring fixed to a friction-free table. The force constant of the spring is 226 N/m . The vehicle has a steady acceleration of 5.00 m/s2, and the ball is not oscillating. Suddenly, when the vehicle's speed has reached 45.0 m/s, its engines turn off, thus eliminating its acceleration but not its velocity.

What will be the ball's maximum speed relative to the vehicle?

Homework Equations


v = ±ω√(A2 - x2)
ω = √(k/m)

The Attempt at a Solution


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I solved for ω and got 8.0356 rad/s
I tried to use the v equation above and set x = 0 and got 0.598m/s, the site told me my answer was not quite right possibly due to a round-off error.
 
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Vanessa Avila said:
I solved for ω and got 8.0356 rad/s
OK, that looks good.
I tried to use the v equation above and set x = 0 and got 0.598m/s, the site told me my answer was not quite right possibly due to a round-off error.
What value did you use for A and how did you get it?
 
TSny said:
OK, that looks good.

What value did you use for A and how did you get it?
I used 0.0774 m for A. I go that by kx=m(a), solved for x and had that equal to A.
 
Vanessa Avila said:
I used 0.0774 m for A. I go that by kx=m(a), solved for x and had that equal to A.
OK, good. When I use your values of A and ω, I don't get your answer of 0.598 m/s. Maybe you plugged in 0.0744 instead of 0.0774?
 
TSny said:
OK, good. When I use your values of A and ω, I don't get your answer of 0.598 m/s. Maybe you plugged in 0.0744 instead of 0.0774?
I did plug in 0.0744! Thank you! I'm being very clumsy today and making really clumsy mistakes. I looked at what i wrote just now and saw that from 0.0774 i changed it to 0.0744. Many thanks! This kinda confused me though. How do we know when to set the x to 0?
 
TSny said:
OK, good. When I use your values of A and ω, I don't get your answer of 0.598 m/s. Maybe you plugged in 0.0744 instead of 0.0774?
Did you get 0.622m/s?
 
Vanessa Avila said:
How do we know when to set the x to 0?
In this problem, you want maximum speed. So, you pick the value of x that will give max speed.
 
Vanessa Avila said:
Did you get 0.622m/s?
Yes.
 
TSny said:
In this problem, you want maximum speed. So, you pick the value of x that will give max speed.
when x is equal to 0, does that always indicate maximum speed at that displacement?
 
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For a mass moving only under the influence of a spring, you will get maximum KE (therefore, max speed) when the PE is minimum. Minimum PE for a spring occurs at what value of x?
 
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TSny said:
For a mass moving only under the influence of a spring, you will get maximum KE (therefore, max speed) when the PE is minimum. Minimum PE for a spring occurs at what value of x?
at its equilibrium point? x=0?
 
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Vanessa Avila said:
at its equilibrium point? x=0?
Right. At the equilibrium point, the spring is unstretched and there is no potential energy stored in the spring. So, all of the energy of the system must be in the form of kinetic energy.
 
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TSny said:
Right. At the equilibrium point, the spring is unstretched and there is no potential energy stored in the spring. So, all of the energy of the system must be in the form of kinetic energy.
That makes more sense now. Thank you!
 

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