Determining Subspace of Singular 2x2 Matrices in R^2

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The discussion centers on determining whether the set of all singular 2x2 matrices forms a subspace of R^2. It is noted that the sum of two singular matrices is not necessarily singular, which challenges the closure property required for a subspace. The participants express difficulty in representing singular matrices in a general form suitable for testing closure under addition and scalar multiplication. Additionally, a similar problem regarding polynomials in P4 with at least one real root is introduced, with the same closure concerns raised. Overall, the key issue is the failure of the singular matrices and the polynomial set to meet the criteria for subspaces.
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Homework Statement



Determine if the set of all singular 2 x 2 matrices are a subspace of R^{2}

Homework Equations



If a, b, c, and d are the entries of a 2 x 2 matrix, then their determinant, ad - bc = 0 if the matrix is singular.

The Attempt at a Solution



I have been doing other problems like this without much trouble by taking two general form objects in the set and checking the closure relations for addition and scalar multiplication. However, I'm not sure how I can represent the general form of a singular 2 x 2 matrix so that I can perform addition and scalar multiplication on it.

For example, the matrix X with x_{11}=a, x_{22}=b, x_{21}=a, and x_{22}=b is an example of a singular 2x2 matrix but it isn't a general form, which I'd need to determine if the set of singular 2x2 matrices are a subspace.

If I took two matrices like x and checked the closure relations I believe I'd find they are satisfied, which my books tells me is the wrong answer.

Thanks.
 
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I have another similar question and I'm hoping I can't get help with both of them. The 2nd question is:

Homework Statement



Determine whether the set of all polynomials in P_{4} (where P_{4} is the set of polynomials with degree less than 4) having at least one real root is a subspace of P_{4}.

The Attempt at a Solution



Like the problem above, I'm just trying to figure out how to represent the set of all polynomials in P_{4} having at least one real root. I'm not sure where to begin and am looking for help with the start. Thank you.
 
3.141592654 said:

Homework Statement



Determine if the set of all singular 2 x 2 matrices are a subspace of R^{2}

Homework Equations



If a, b, c, and d are the entries of a 2 x 2 matrix, then their determinant, ad - bc = 0 if the matrix is singular.

The Attempt at a Solution



I have been doing other problems like this without much trouble by taking two general form objects in the set and checking the closure relations for addition and scalar multiplication. However, I'm not sure how I can represent the general form of a singular 2 x 2 matrix so that I can perform addition and scalar multiplication on it.

For example, the matrix X with x_{11}=a, x_{22}=b, x_{21}=a, and x_{22}=b is an example of a singular 2x2 matrix but it isn't a general form, which I'd need to determine if the set of singular 2x2 matrices are a subspace.

If I took two matrices like x and checked the closure relations I believe I'd find they are satisfied, which my books tells me is the wrong answer.

Thanks.

I don't think the sum of two singular matrices is necessarily singular. Can you find an example?
 
3.141592654 said:
I have another similar question and I'm hoping I can't get help with both of them. The 2nd question is:

Homework Statement



Determine whether the set of all polynomials in P_{4} (where P_{4} is the set of polynomials with degree less than 4) having at least one real root is a subspace of P_{4}.

The Attempt at a Solution



Like the problem above, I'm just trying to figure out how to represent the set of all polynomials in P_{4} having at least one real root. I'm not sure where to begin and am looking for help with the start. Thank you.

Same strategy on this one. Find two polynomials with at least one root whose sum has no roots. Just flail around for a bit, you'll probably find two now that you know you can.
 
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