Determining the magnitude of the resultant couple

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The discussion focuses on calculating the magnitude and coordinate angles of the resultant couple moment caused by forces in a mechanical system. The key equation used is M = r x F, where M represents the moment, r is the position vector, and F is the force vector. Participants share their attempts at solving the problem, specifically calculating moments M1, M2, and M3, while struggling with expressing the position vector r. A crucial insight is that the component of force F4 acting at right angles to r is essential for determining the couple created.

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  • Understanding of vector cross product (M = r x F)
  • Familiarity with calculating moments in mechanics
  • Knowledge of coordinate systems and vector representation
  • Basic geometry for determining distances and angles
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Homework Statement


Calculate the magnitude and coordinate angles of the resultant couple moment, caused by the forces.

Homework Equations


M= r x F

The Attempt at a Solution


M3= -0.2* 80k= -16k
M2= 0.2* 120i= 24i
M1= -0.2*100j= -20j
M4= r x F= ?

I just can't seem to be able to expres r into a vector, I tried to first determine the coordinates of the ends of the bar on which the tips of the arrows of F4 and -F4 lie. And then use this to calculate the vector that specifies the distance between them. Sadly without succes. Using the geometry to find the coordinates won't work for me.
 
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Pascal1p said:
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Homework Statement


Calculate the magnitude and coordinate angles of the resultant couple moment, caused by the forces.

Homework Equations


M= r x F

The Attempt at a Solution


M3= -0.2* 80k= -16k
M2= 0.2* 120i= 24i
M1= -0.2*100j= -20j
M4= r x F= ?

I just can't seem to be able to expres r into a vector, I tried to first determine the coordinates of the ends of the bar on which the tips of the arrows of F4 and -F4 lie. And then use this to calculate the vector that specifies the distance between them. Sadly without succes. Using the geometry to find the coordinates won't work for me.

For M4, it's not important to find the coordinates of r. What is important is to find the component of F4 which acts at right angles to r in order to calculate the couple created there.

Still, given the orientation of r with respect to the three coordinate planes, you should have been able to find its coordinates. Did you make a sketch before doing your calculations?
 
Pascal1p, the magnitude of a couple is easily found using the distance between the lines of actions of the two forces. How is the direction of the couple related to the plane containing the lines of action of the forces?
 

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