Determining the radius of convergence

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The discussion revolves around determining the radius and interval of convergence for the power series \(\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} (3+(-1)^n)nx^n\). Participants explore the implications of applying the ratio test and the behavior of the series based on the parity of \(n\).

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the application of the ratio test and its inconclusiveness due to oscillation. There are attempts to separate the series into even and odd terms to analyze convergence properties. Questions arise regarding the validity of the radius of convergence derived from these separate analyses.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the radius of convergence, with some participants suggesting values based on their calculations. The discussion reflects a mix of interpretations regarding the overall radius and interval of convergence, with guidance being offered on considering the smaller radius from the even and odd term analyses.

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Participants note that the original series may diverge for certain values of \(x\) and that the ratio test does not provide definitive information about convergence in this case. There is an emphasis on the need to consider the behavior of the series at the endpoints of the interval.

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1. Determine the raius of convergence and interval of convergence of the power series \sum from n=1 to \infty (3+(-1)n)nxn.



2. Usually when finding the radius of convergence of a power series I start off by using the ratio test: limn\rightarrow∞|((3+(-1)n+1)n+1xn+1/ (3+(-1)n)nxn|

But this limit does not exist since this equation is just oscillating between 0 and +infinity.

Is there a radius of convergence?
 
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porroadventum said:
1. Determine the raius of convergence and interval of convergence of the power series \sum from n=1 to \infty (3+(-1)n)nxn.



2. Usually when finding the radius of convergence of a power series I start off by using the ratio test: limn\rightarrow∞|((3+(-1)n+1)n+1xn+1/ (3+(-1)n)nxn|

But this limit does not exist since this equation is just oscillating between 0 and +infinity.

Is there a radius of convergence?
Every power series has a radius of convergence- but it is possible that the radius of convergence is 0 or infinity.

Here, you have
\frac{(3+(-1)^{n+1})^{n+1}}{(3+(-1)^n)^n}|x|

The simplest way to handle this is to look at n even and odd separately:
1) if n is even, then n+1 is odd so (-1)^n= 1 and (-1)^{n+1}= -1 so that we have
\frac{(2^{n+1}}{4^n}|x|= (2)(1/2)^n|x|
and, as n goes to infinity that goes to 0.

2) if n is odd, then n+1 is even so (-1)^n= -1 and (-1)^a{n+1}= 1 so that we have
\frac{4^{n+1}}{2^n}|x|= 4(2^n)|x|
which does not converge. The series converges only for x= 0 and the radius of convergence is 0.
 
HallsofIvy said:
Every power series has a radius of convergence- but it is possible that the radius of convergence is 0 or infinity.

Here, you have
\frac{(3+(-1)^{n+1})^{n+1}}{(3+(-1)^n)^n}|x|

The simplest way to handle this is to look at n even and odd separately:
1) if n is even, then n+1 is odd so (-1)^n= 1 and (-1)^{n+1}= -1 so that we have
\frac{(2^{n+1}}{4^n}|x|= (2)(1/2)^n|x|
and, as n goes to infinity that goes to 0.

2) if n is odd, then n+1 is even so (-1)^n= -1 and (-1)^a{n+1}= 1 so that we have
\frac{4^{n+1}}{2^n}|x|= 4(2^n)|x|
which does not converge. The series converges only for x= 0 and the radius of convergence is 0.

You've only shown that the limit in the ratio test doesn't exist. That means the ratio test is inconclusive. You can't say anything about the radius of convergence from that. You want to split the series into two other series consisting of even and odd terms of the original series. Those both have a well defined radius of convergence.
 
I split the original series into even and odd terms and got the radius of convergence =1/4 for even terms and =1/2 for odd terms. Is this correct?
 
porroadventum said:
I split the original series into even and odd terms and got the radius of convergence =1/4 for even terms and =1/2 for odd terms. Is this correct?

Yes, so what do you say for the radius of convergence of the whole series?
 
...3/4?
 
porroadventum said:
...3/4?

Think about it again. One of the series diverges for |x|>1/4.
 
Oh so it will the orginal series will have a radius of convergence of 1/4?!
 
porroadventum said:
Oh so it will the orginal series will have a radius of convergence of 1/4?!

Yes, it will be the smaller of the two radii.
 
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Does that mean the interval of convergence is (-1/4,1/4)? Because when I let x=1/4,=-1/4 I get 1 and +/-1 respectively which are divergent series. Therefore it is absolutely convergent in (-1/4,1/4) and is divergent everywhere else.

THank you for your help on this.
 
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porroadventum said:
Does that mean the interval of convergence is (-1/4,1/4)? Because when I let x=1/4,=-1/4 I get 1 and +/-1 respectively which are divergent series. Therefore it is absolutely convergent in (-1/4,1/4) and is divergent everywhere else.

THank you for your help on this.

That's it. You're welcome.
 

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